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Post by Cyrus on Feb 23, 2005 20:27:33 GMT
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Post by PokerKitten on Feb 23, 2005 20:53:45 GMT
I can't tell you how much I enjoyed Joss' commentary on Conviction. Loved all the teccie details, the motivations for shooting in a particular way etc. It really enhanced the episode for me and made me pay attention to detail. And I felt guilty about moaning about Wes seemingly catching Angel's mumbling, barely moving his mouth disease when Joss was explaining how Alexis had Bell's Palsy, and how that made them shoot and light him differently for a few episodes. *hangs head in shame* "David is extraordinarily good at playing bemused." He is, he so is! ;D Wow, 27 takes for the 4 minutes plus steadicam shot after the credits, showing us the sweep of the new building and our guys within it. Hmmm, too nice about Eve! But he obviously likes Sarah..... and Amy's legs... and Mercedes.... I liked the bit about Spanky and particularly "All you spankers out there, god bless." Glad he could see how good J looks in a suit! Hubba hubba! And blimey, I'd forgotten about semi-nekkid sweaty Gunn getting the knowledge *faints* And of course, his lovely long ramble about James: "My one disappointment was that I didn't get to work with James Marsters. I had wanted to earn his return, the return of Spike. It was very important to me, after his death on Buffy, that his return not be a simple thing; that we start Angel with the Angel crew. Show the problem, show their various ways of dealing with it, and then set up the new wrinkle in the mix, which would be Spike. And so that meant, you know, that his first big episode got to be shot by somebody else and I don't think that's fair. And it was basically, James got up, he went 'raaawr', and I was like 'Good work James, great work [gabbles too fast for me to catch] again. Bye!' I did get to work with him again on A Hole In The World but in this instance it was not fair. Cause the energy he brought with him, to this cast and to the set, was priceless in our fifth season. James treats every season like it is his first job ever and he makes everybody else as funny and hard working as they can be." That is some compliment!
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Post by Teebee on Feb 24, 2005 14:50:07 GMT
I can't wait for my dvd's to arrive, I have the whole season on vhs but obviously don't have all the extras However I got an e-mail today saying that the dispatch date has been changed again *second time this week* as the suppliers can't ship copies out till the bloody 28th now...
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Post by PokerKitten on Feb 26, 2005 19:55:22 GMT
Well, the "Destiny" commentary has been much commented on online, but I would have liked Juliet to get more of a look-in; although she was quite firm at one point and shut up the noisy boys with her observations about Spike and Dru's epic love affair. Good for her! But oh my, it was a wonder I could concentrate on any of it after "They are always up for a little homo-eroticism, David and James." Oh, and so very well done to Ben Edlund who was the one who suggested the hands and the sunray and the testing/bonding thing. Big kisses to him! ;D Oh, and among more compliments for James - "The thing about James that's so wonderful is that he, he is game for anything."
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Post by nightnurse on Feb 26, 2005 20:06:12 GMT
Mwahahah....I've got a couple of games we could play
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Post by nightnurse on Mar 3, 2005 23:39:11 GMT
Now it might just be me, but I was watching Hellbound in the early hours when I couldn't sleep, and during James' nude scene, there is a point when, between his arms you can just make out the sock, I did flash back a few (!) times to make sure and you can def see something ;D....okay, I'm a perve, I know
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Post by Cyrus on Mar 4, 2005 1:29:08 GMT
I watched that scene already (though not the whole ep; used scene selection to find it; yes I'm a perve too), and didn't see it. Hmmm must do further research...
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Post by nightnurse on Jun 6, 2005 16:04:09 GMT
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Post by PokerKitten on Jun 7, 2005 10:41:07 GMT
Oh hell! I'd really like 1 and 2 on DVD but I really shouldn't do it right now, with all the Jamesy expenses piling up.
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Post by PokerKitten on Oct 8, 2005 10:41:26 GMT
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Post by Cyrus on Oct 8, 2005 16:44:41 GMT
That's so neat! ;D I've not seen anything like that for , but I have seasons 1-3,5 anyway.
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Post by PokerKitten on Nov 2, 2005 1:24:00 GMT
This is included in the big ol' DVD collection. Joss Whedon's letter to Angel fans
Dear Angel Fan...
"..and she'll have a love interest, a mysterious stranger named Angel who turns out to be a vampire! But a vampire with a soul, cursed to walk the night in eternal remorse for his evil deeds.."
No wait. That's way too cheesy. Nobody will ever buy that.
Such were my thoughts as I developed the show "Buffy the Vampire Slayer." I knew Angel wouldn't (forgive the pun) fly. I was frantic. And then something wonderful happened.
I totally didn't come up with anything better.
So this guy was born, and not only did people buy him, they loved him. I loved him, at least 76% platonically. I loved him enough to create, with my partner in crime David Greenwalt, his own show. "Angel". And then it got weird. Well, weirder.
The thing is, "Buffy" was a simple premise that developed into a complex show. "Angel" was not a simple premise, not for guys like Dave and me. We couldn't just have noble, handsome, dark hero rush in and save various days. We tried. That ain't life. We found that "Angel" needed to be a show about our darkest journeys, not unlike Buffy except that Buffy had a grounding; she had a destiny, an arc, a posse. We knew where she had to go. We had NO IDEA where Angel had to go. And so he went everywhere: up down, good, bad, left, farther left... off the edge of the world and home for supper and the thing is, it ended up being as much or more about our lives than Buffy was. We weren't 'chosen' (not for sports, anyway). We had no destiny. We lived on the edge of chaos, personally, narratively... even as Angel surrounded himself with more and more of a family (and we found more and more wonderful actors for David Boreanaz to play against), that central core of warmth and safety that Buffy enjoyed was missing. The result is before you in toto: The long, strange trip that is five years in the life a vampire. Not long enough, I would argue, but plenty with the strange. For your listy goodness, a few of the moments herein that made my life worth living:
--Angel locking a roomful of lawyers in with two peckish vampire gals. --Buffy swearing never to forget her time with Angel, right before she does. --Faith in the rain, begging Angel to kill her. --Princess Cordelia. --Darla's horrified accusation, "While Spike - SPIKE - was out killing a Slayer, you were busy saving Missonaries!... From me." (True emotional Vampire logic, courtesy of Tim Minear.) --Lilah dressing up Fred to seduce Wesley. (Gentlemen, start you therapists!) --Any and all karaoke. --Fred and Wesley, deeply drunk. --Gunn in the White Room, meeting his match. --The biggest, bloodiest and most personal Spike/Angel fight we've ever shot. --The silliest, most pointless Spike/Angel argument we've ever shot. --Dude, puppets!
With no star to guide us, we sailed into waters filled with dragons and mermaids and a few really impressive icebergs. We made some of our most compelling television, reinventing season by season, show by show, moment to moment. This is our odd little odyssey, and no, we never did reach the shores of safety, but that's sort of the point. We don't go through the Hell of existence - the pain, the drama, the meaninglessness and confusion because it's safe, or simple, or will end happily now or ever after. We do it because nobody ever come up with anything better.
So enjoy it. I did.
*Signed* Joss Whedon
Squared
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Post by PokerKitten on Feb 10, 2006 12:25:19 GMT
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Post by Cyrus on Jun 12, 2007 23:19:27 GMT
www.bestbuy.com has a sale on their FOX series DVDs until June 16. This makes all Buffy and Angel DVDs $19.99! (usually about $50 or so) ETA: That's both online and in-store.
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Post by marilyn on Jun 13, 2007 0:10:45 GMT
Yep....very good buy....T mentioned it to me and I hinted....strongly.... that I would like it...lol....and he brought it home from work with him last night..... ;D No mention of me repaying him yet.....
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Post by PokerKitten on Oct 17, 2007 11:50:24 GMT
You can win an Angel Box (of all 5 seasons), and very purdy it is too, at CHUD, where they also had this to say: The show lasted five seasons, some better than others but all watchable, and became beloved in no small part thanks to the fun work of James Marsters as Spike the comic relief vampire.
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Post by PokerKitten on Oct 25, 2007 16:01:39 GMT
There's a review of the boxed set at the Washington Post. Here's a snatch: And in a move to goose ratings in the final season, Whedon and Greenwalt brought in Angel's longtime "Buffy" rival, sexy vampire Spike (James Marsters). Spike and Angel turned into a pretty good buddy team, sort of an undead version of Starsky and Hutch that would have played out more fully had the series continued.
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