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Post by PokerKitten on Sept 13, 2003 11:28:08 GMT
Angel: In the second episode of the new season, which will be written by David Fury and directed by James A. Contner, we are introduced to four characters: Hainsley, a big, gregarious and amiable sort who can be really scary and is listed as a guest star; Novac, a late-20s associate at the law firm, who is described as “slick and a smartass”; a manserveant, a dapper gentleman who is described as “bald, thin, tall and lanky”; and a funny demon, with the casting notes saying that the actor will be fitted with light prosthetics on his hand and face. The latter three are listed as co-stars. The episode is untitled as of this writing and begins shooting on August 5.
www.filmjerk.com/nuke/article567.html
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Post by PokerKitten on Sept 13, 2003 11:32:46 GMT
Ep 2 is called Just Rewards.
Spikey is his old snarky self and is somehow tied to Angel. Slash fiends' paradise!! He "follows" him everywhere, appearing/disappearing at will. And Angel is a whiny git! Plus - unlike the Randall and Hopkirk (deceased) scenario, everyone can see him, which is a relief because at least he stands a chance of interacting with other characters. Lol! He keeps getting in digs at Angel working at W&H, and using the IRS to fight his battles..... he also mentions that he doesn't think a "certain slayer" would be too impressed
New character - well here today, gone today type character! - Hainsley somehow "installs" demons into human bodies, and he is interrupted in his work by Angel and GhostSpike *ugh* H orders his servant to kill them, but hey, Spike's a ghost, already dead... nahnahnahnahnaaah! Fighting ensues, servant is offed by Brood Boy. H somehow manages to paralyse Angel (how can we tell the difference?! Can you tell I am bitter?!) because he has power over dead bodies (necromancer). Spikey appears and says he's "stuck" to Angel *argh!* but ain't helping. But H knows the Senior Partners wouldn't like it if he offed Angel.
An unstuck Angel and H bicker a bit and Angel leaves.... but despite saying he is stuck to Angel Spike reappears to H, who offers to make him touchy-feely if he helps bring Angel down.
We later see Angel turssed up at H's place with H looking on, and it seems as if Spike has taken him up on his offer and he is going to get Angel's body *I can't believe I just typed that!! Run for the hills!!* But just so as H can have his accounts restored (Angel got Gunn to freeze 'em) and stuff. Then Spike gets to be solid. Spike has a bit of fun imagining leading Angel's "life" (cars, cool gaff), and maybe having a crack at Fred...
But what's this?! H has been duped and Spike is in H's body instead. Angel fights H-plus-Spike and decapitates him, and hey, there's GhostSpike's head in its place. What japes! Yay, he gets to say "Oh bollocks!" Rah! Then Spike tells Angel that H actually died a wee while ago. But Spike just had to get "a few licks in".... How we'll laugh.....
Well, we probably will, as JM will be magnificent! And if it give DB a chance for some comedy too, his portrayal of Angel will improve no end!
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Post by PokerKitten on Sept 13, 2003 11:36:37 GMT
If you want the bald and basic facts, without my churlish commentary, this is what Spoiled Rotten has put up so far: Episode 2 Spoilers July 29, 2003 The casting sides for Episode 2 have begun to surface. Here's some of the details: - Episode 2 is called Just Rewards. - Spike is back and he is a ghost in this episode. - Angel and Spike argue about how they dealt with getting their souls - Angel says he spent a 100 years dealing with it and Spike spent only 3 weeks moaning in a basement. - Angel goes to a guy named Hainsley, who has some sort of demon body shop- maybe trying to find a way to be rid of Spike. He tries to get Hainsley to cooperate by threatening to sick the IRS on him and close his bank accounts. - Hainsley offers to help Spike if he helps bring down Angel. - Hainsley's plan is to put Spike in Angel's body. When Angel show's up at Hainsley's mansion and is captured. - Spike takes control of Hainsley. - Hainsley/Spike and Angel fight. spoiledrotten.tvheaven.com/angel.html
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Post by PokerKitten on Sept 17, 2003 20:16:00 GMT
www.spoilerslayer.com/archives/002421.phpJust Rewards (courtesy of Eljay)
Episode opens with a reprise of the end of Chosen. Sort of. No *I love you/no you don't* -- just Buffy begging Spike to leave and Spike saying he has to stay and finish this, and Buffy reluctantly leaving. We see him start to burn away and then suddenly we're in Angel's office. Where Spike is disoriented and very confused. Staring at a host of unfamiliar faces -- Wesley, Lorne, Fred and Gunn.
Fred is asking who he is. Wesley starts telling the story -- William the Bloody, one-time Scourge of Europe, who three weeks ago died saving the world. Sired by Drusilla, who was sired by ... Angel. Who Spike finally sees, and angrily attacks -- except he passes right though his body and into a desk.
Spike is wondering what the heck happened. Harmony tells him he's a ghost. Wesley is still explaining to Fred how Spike died to prevent an apocalypse, wearing the amulet now lying on the floor. Fred asks Angel if Spike is a good vampire, like him, to which Angel replies that Spike is nothing like him. Wesley remarks that Spike has been fighting alongside Buffy -- which causes Spike to ask about her. Angel tells him she's okay, she's in Europe, and he's not going to help Spike connect with her. They wrangle. Spike grows increasingly agitated again -- what the heck happened, where is he and what is he doing there?
In the science department, Fred is taking readings on Spike. Spike comments that he's heard of Wolfram & Hart -- heard it represented some of the worst evil in the known universe. Angel says it used to, but he's in charge now. Spike has his doubts. Fred notes that the readings she's taking don't quite conform with the idea that Spike is a ghost. Everyone wonders how the amulet ended up on Angel's desk since when last seen it was buried inside the Hellmouth. Fred suggests that maybe TPTB sent Spike to help them. That pisses Spike off: who gave the higher-ups the right to stop him from dying in peace? As he bitches about it, he suddenly starts to fade away.
He reappears on the other side of the room, very shaken. Then turns on Angel -- this is Angel's fault for wussing out on using the amulet himself when Buffy needed him. Spike didn't choose this -- just because he got himself resouled --
Huh? What? The others stare at him in shock. Wesley asks Angel why he never mentioned that Spike had a soul now. Angel replies he didn't think it was worth mentioning. Spike suggests that Angel is annoyed his exclusive *vamp with a soul* club has been invaded. They argue in the hallway. In the middle of this, a dangerous demon steps out of the elevator -- the two vampires immediately suspend hostilities to kill it (except Spike goes right through it, of course). Turns out, that was Angel's 3 pm appointment. Oops.
Gunn shows up to talk to Angel about their progress in rooting out the really evil employees. As he and Angel discuss this (and Spike watches the side-show), an employee named Novac shows up. Novac is upset because they've shut down the grave-robbing department, which provides bodies to one of their best clients, Magnus Hainsley. Angel tells him to tell Hainsley he's no longer a client. Spike, disgusted by the whole business, decides to leave.
Angel is pondering the Spike situation with Wesley - is it really his fault? did W&H intend for Angel to wear the amulet? If so, why give him (Angel) the LA office? Or maybe they really meant for Spike to wear the amulet? As they are talking, Spike shows up. Turns out, the amulet won't let him leave Los Angeles. Each time he tries, he gets pulled back to the office. Wesley is unsurprised; he'd already guessed that Spike was linked to the amulet somehow. Both Angel and Spike are complaining about the misery of it all when Harmony tells them that Novac has returned. In three buckets.
Angel, Wes and Gunn discuss the Hainsley situation, with Spike watching them. Hainsley is a necromancer, hence the need for dead bodies. Gunn suggests a way to deal with Hainsley. Angel decides to pay him a visit. Spike decides to tag along.
Hainsley is meeting with a demony client when Angel and Spike show up. He tells his servant to kill them. The servant goes after Angel, while Spike roots him on. When Angel has disposed of the servant, he complains about Spike rooting against him. Spike tells Angel he needs to be taken down a peg -- he has things too good. Power, glory, comfort -- whereas Spike saves the world and gets fried and ghosted for his efforts. It's not fair. Angel yells back that it's not fair that he spent 100 years trying to come to terms with his soulful remorse, while it took Spike three weeks.
Spike does the disappearing thing again, while Angel storms off to confront Hainsley, who has just finished installing his demon client into the body of a young, dead woman. Hainsley asserts control over Angel and throttles him for awhile -- as a necromancer, he has power over the dead -- but realizes that killing Angel would displease the Senior Partners, who have plans for him. Angel decides to take Gunn's advice after all -- he tells Hainsley that he's frozen all his assets and turned his books over to the IRS. Hainsley is still threatening him as he and Spike leave.
Spike is unimpressed with Angel's solution and is snarking when he suddenly disappears. Only this time, it's because Hainsley summoned him back. Hainsley has an offer -- he can make Spike corporeal if Spike will just help him take care of Angel.
Back at Wolfram & Hart, Angel is conferring with the others about the Spike situation. Wesley says he's had his department check it out, and there's nothing they can do to free Spike from the amulet, so he's stuck being connected to W&H. The only alternative is to give Spike what he asked for: eternal rest. If they smash the amulet on hallowed ground, it can be destroyed. Fred protests that that's like killing him, and it's not right. Wesley agrees, but it's not right leaving him helplessly suspended between realms either.
Angel decides he wants to sleep on the matter. He goes up to his very posh penthouse, gets ready for bed, and lies down. Spike shows up. He mentions overhearing the discussion about him, and also tells Angel that Hainsley offered to recorporealize him if he betrays Angel. Angel asks what he told Hainsley, and Spike reminds him that he's a white hat now. Says he hates this in-between thing and wants Angel to end it.
At the graveyard, Angel prepares to destroy the amulet, when Hainsley seizes him and knocks him out. Spike comments that he was afraid he'd never show up.
Angel wakes up at Hainsley's place. Hainsley informs him that he's going to give his body to Spike, so Spike can reverse all the damage Angel did to Hainsley's interests. Spike asks Angel if he really expected Spike to let his gang consign him to oblivion. Hainsley has agreed to get Spike his own body back, once he's fixed the damage that Angel did to Hainsley. And in the meantime, Spike will have everything he deserves -- Angel's cars, his digs, his power.
Hainsley begins the transfer process, but when Spike transfers into his body, he takes control of Hainsley, so Angel can attack him. It's obvious that this was planned in advance between the two vampires. Angel kills Hainsley, but Spike continues to animate the body until Angel knocks the head off, so he can get in a few shots at his grandsire, just for the fun of it.
Back at W&H, Spike goes to talk to Fred. When he disappears, he thinks he's being sucked into hell. He's scared. Can she help him?
Blackout
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Post by PokerKitten on Sept 17, 2003 20:20:59 GMT
Hmm, rewriting Buffy history, are they, to make the Triangle more viable?! Let it go Joss! There's only a small group of B/A-ers who give a crap! Grow up Brood Boy!! You're supposed to be a champion!
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Post by PokerKitten on Sept 25, 2003 16:43:33 GMT
Some folks have viewed the pre-special effects version of JR and most seem delighted with it, especially from a Spikey POV. I am trying to download the bastard thing as we speak, but it is slow going and I am not confident, lol! If I manage in the end, I'' bring you my thoughts, for what they're worth! Meanwhile, Naddy has started her screencapping again, and I am in the process of uploading the Spike-centric ones of my choice to Bloody Spike - enjoy!
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Post by twistedspike on Sept 25, 2003 21:48:25 GMT
I have downloaded the ep now just waiting for it to encode to put on disc. Did take a sneak peak at the beginning of it and James was really good. I liked the way it was playing out. Spike was very snarky but also very vunerable I felt sorry for him.
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Post by PokerKitten on Sept 28, 2003 19:47:01 GMT
Ow wowwowwow!! ;D Woohoo and all that!! ;D ;D Excellent, just brilliant entertainment! James was absolutely on top form, so many layers to Spike in this episode. And bloody hell, did he look good into the bargain. Spike hasn't looked this good since, well, since a long time to be honest. The fantastic buzz between him and Angel - DB did really well, I have to say that, and you know coming from me that means a lot! He did resentful, jealous, conflicted, guilty, caring, snarky - very well. Bravo. No more two dimensional Brood Boy this - he may end up with almost as many discernible - and sympathetic - layers as Spike if he keeps up this standard (and the writers play their part too, of course). James did all that and more, of course, and his final scene with Fred, nicely juxtaposed against Angel and Harmony agreeing that he never opens up, was heartbreaking. Clearly terrified, dreading his fate, but trying to be all manly about it. And yet asking for help. And from the right person as well. He's a shrewd guy, as we know. Big old nod to all the Spangel fans with the bedroom scene, not to mention the car scene - I thought the back together again thing was pretty... um... yeah well, I ain't a slash fan.... yet *cough* I'm so glad the Fang Gang akcnowledged and respected his soul getting and world saving, and seemed to see through Angel's bluster and previous tight-lippedness about it. Kinda strange seeing Gunn with scalp fuzz, and being very talky and assertive and .... well, unlike some people, I thought it suited him. I don't blame him for being sick and tired of always being looked upon as nothing but the muscle of the outfit, so way to go to turn that on its head. Clever old Senior Partners. And I was luke warm when I heard Harmony was back, but Mercedes is kicking ass! She was great! And Harmony really seems to fit her role in the firm. But have to come back to the banter and snark ping-ponging between Spike and Angel. I respect Spike's fears of becoming the wise-cracking ghostly sidekick (just the Randall and Hopkirk routine that I didn't want to see), but the very fact that they have him say that assures me the writers won't let it just be that. And anyway, James would so nuance the hell out of any lame script that it would never descend to just that anyway. Okay, enough rambling praise! Next, please! Cy, you seen it yet? I lied! I'm back to say that I loved the fact we saw the Mexican wrestler mailman in this ep.... Continuity is so NOT for wusses!
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Post by Cyrus on Sept 28, 2003 19:56:03 GMT
www.angelfire.com/vamp/cyrus/images/smilies/evil yellow fruit.gif[/img]ooooh!!! I can't wait!!! If I did, don't you think I would have already said something?! My download is still at 45%... should be ready any millenium now! *still jumping up and down*
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Post by PokerKitten on Sept 28, 2003 20:00:38 GMT
Spike calls him beefcake! I nearly choked, and bust a gut laughing! I laughed a lot in this ep, and almost cried too. Fred did look very very nervous of Spike til he starting oopening up to her..... why?!
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Post by Cyrus on Sept 28, 2003 20:14:03 GMT
Spike calls him beefcake! I nearly choked, and bust a gut laughing! Thanks for the warning!!! ;D There were a couple of those burst-out-laughing-I'm-glad-I'm-in-my-room-with-my-door-shut-or-they'd-think-I-was-crazy moments in the first ep too... *sigh* ...53%... *sigh*
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Post by PokerKitten on Sept 28, 2003 21:06:11 GMT
The guy who plays Hainsley was really good, btw.
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Post by Cyrus on Sept 28, 2003 21:57:38 GMT
Has finally finished downloading! I'm off to watch! ;D ----- "I'm his date." "Together like we used to be." "Help me." "Oh. My. God. You and the slayer actually... I mean, I know you had that twisted obsession with her but ugh! That's just... ugh! I.. ugh!" "I must be in hell." / "Uh, no, LA, but a lot of people make that mistake." "Think I'm hot, do you?" "Oh balls!" ;D ----- Spike looks an awful lot like James... well he has a bit of roots... Interesting how Angel left out lots of stuff about Spike having a soul, saving the world, etc... I thought the description of where some of the FX will be was funny!
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Post by PokerKitten on Oct 9, 2003 0:03:57 GMT
Yeah, the whole travelling up the arm business was funny ;D The preview of the ep - aka the wildfeed summary - is up at www.angelsacolyte.com Click on the "The preview for "Just Rewards" has been posted" link on their main page to access it.
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Post by Cyrus on Oct 9, 2003 4:56:08 GMT
Well I did get to watch the episode tonight... much to my dad's annoyance... but he sat there and watched most of it! And my mom watched some too... and she wonders why I like to watch alone... "who's that? why is he there? I thought he was a detective? what is he?" And I'm like "Save your questions for commercials!" The "demon parts traveling up arm" was replaced by a glowing yellow effect of kinda dust-like stuff... similar to Spike's dusting actually... At one point, ya know how they flash stuff like an outside of a building view between scenes? Well there was this one time my dad said "What was that?" I said "I don't know. It looked like it said Wolfram & Hart." he told me that I'd have to get my tape out later and find out! Anyway, looked like it was a red background and it looked like it said "Wolfram & Hart" in white text... but I'll have to get personal with the pause button! My fav quotes are already posted in my um... before air-date post above... Next week's promo... just the werewolf thing... nothing too interesting... oh FUCKING SHIT! I just discovered that I taped this episode over Conviction... which I hadn't watched yet, and which my dad wouldn't let me watch when it aired! *goes to a corner to die*
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Post by nycbound on Oct 9, 2003 11:40:51 GMT
This is a pitiful plea! But, I completely forgot to set up my VCR in order to tape "Just Rewards." IS there anyone who would be willing to send me a copy? I will of course provide monetary compensation! Pretty please?
Jessica
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Post by PokerKitten on Oct 9, 2003 11:47:58 GMT
Yikes!! What a one to miss! You might be lucky, but you may have to resort to downloading. As a Brit, that is my fate!
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Post by PokerKitten on Oct 11, 2003 11:36:58 GMT
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Post by Incogni2 on Oct 11, 2003 17:47:59 GMT
Verrrrrry nice commentary. Have only watched the ep 3 times so far ;D...my, my, my, did not realize how much I missed seeing Spike. And I've got to applaud JM, whether he is struggling with 'the method' or not, he just so outshines everyone else in facial expressions, body language and presence. As much as I disliked the 1st ep, I loved this one and the interaction with all the players. Guess I should go watch it again.
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Post by PokerKitten on Oct 16, 2003 10:00:18 GMT
The poll verdict for this ep was LOVE IT!! ;D
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