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Post by PokerKitten on Oct 3, 2003 11:54:16 GMT
Some casting sides are out for episode 8 and they are causing quite a furore in Spikeland!
Things are not well at W&H... but are they ever?! Folks are going psycho, killing each other over senseless things.... toner, anyone?!
Spike seems to be able to touch things waaay more confidently now, so is he corporeal again?
Spike and Harmony are implied to be getting hot and heavy, in one scene at any rate. Spike drags her down the corridor, boots a guy, Reese, out of his office, and he and Harm are heard to be moaning and a-groaning behind the closed door. Harmony has been seen unbuttoning her blouse, Spike has removed the infamous duster.... When we next see them, Harmony is biting Spike, he is rolling off her (directions say rolling to his feet....) all freaked out, she is screeching about him not wanting her, just wanting his SlayerWhore. She goes all red-eye and he thumps her....
We also have flashback... Angelus and William in a carriage, A sending W off to have a good time but to be home before sunrise...
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Post by PokerKitten on Oct 3, 2003 15:19:14 GMT
www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=16234
Major ANGEL Spoilage!! I am – Hercules!!
* 5.8 will see the employees of Wolfram & Hart getting some kind of mystical rabies (or something), launching into murderous rages over office supplies and imagined breaches of workplace ettiquette.
* Harmony will be among those who get a case of the crazies, loudly questioning Spike’s decision to choose that “slayer whore” over her.
* The big news is Spike no longer appears to be a ghost at this point. Harmony is able to take a big bite out of Spike’s shoulder. Spike is also able to effortlessly shove employees out of their offices and slug Harm in the kisser.
* I’m guessing Spike stopped being ghosty late in 5.7. A Wolfram functionary seems surprised that Spike can now toss people about.
* The fabulous Eve is back, and even she has to admit that things are indeed odd, even for a multidimensional law firm. “This is bad,” she confirms. “Yeah? You think?” replies Angel, ordering the building sealed off.
* Looks like we may get a flashback or two with vampires Angelus and William in their evil, pre-automobile days.
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Post by PokerKitten on Oct 3, 2003 23:32:00 GMT
www.spoilerslayer.com/archives/002438.phpATS: Episode 8 Info
Some very sketchy info has come out about Episode Eight, but reveals some very intriguing plot twists. Since the info is very limited, it raises a lot of questions. But it would seem that as David Fury stated in a recent interview, there's going to be a big Angel/Spike story arc through Episodes Seven and Eight. Angel: Episode Eight
The episode seems revolve a virus or spell that is spreading through Wolfram and Hart, and causing employees to have violent outbursts (or even die)
Very early in the episode, there is a flashback scene with Angelus and William, in a horse-drawn coach. William leaves the coach and the scene ends.
Back in the present, a very corporeal Spike drags Harmony into an associates office. The associate, Reese, starts to argue that he doesn't have to listen to a ghost. Spike throws him out of the office and slams the door, while Harmony is taking off her top. From behind the door, Reese hears the sounds of Spike and Harmony getting intimate.
Reese, in the hall, turns to another coworker standing at the copy machine. He starts to complain about getting booted from his office, when the employee turns to face him. The employee has red-eyes and blood is running from them. With a fire extinguisher, he bashes Reese to death while raving about how nobody ever replaces the toner.
Later, we turn back to Spike and Harmony. She is biting Spike's shoulder and raving about how he is just using her, and all that he really wants is the Slayer. Her eyes have also turned red. Spike has to hit her to stop her from attacking him, dropping her unconscious to the floor. Outside the office, Fred is sedating the employee who killed Reese. Lorne and his assistant, Van, are also there along with Angel and Eve.
The employee also tried to attack Lorne, but Van saved him. A guard reports that other employees are affected, and Angel orders the building sealed. Lorne goes off to barricade himself inside his office, while Fred heads off to try to research what is happening. Eve, meanwhile, infers that Angel knows exactly what is causing this. The big news, of course, is that Spike is getting 'physical' with the world. No indication as to how this might have happened, but I have a feeling that it's a temporary situation (because he just seems so rushed in the scenes).
The flashback is also big news, as Fury had also indicated in his interview that they weren't sure they would be able to pull these off this season. Although the scene with Angelus/William is very limited, I feel comfortable making some speculation based on these few lines. It seems to me that this could be a flashback to the very first few days (maybe even the first night) of William becoming a vampire. If only because a) Angelus seems to be intrigued by William rather than annoyed and b) he is referred to as William, not Spike. In addition, Angelus seems to be explaining things to Spike about another vampire (which would seem to be Drusilla).
All in all, looks like things will definitely be heating up for Sweeps, and there is still Episode Nine to come.
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Post by PokerKitten on Oct 16, 2003 12:00:45 GMT
Oh my, I don't know what to say.... I have read a detailed summery for this ep and some of it I think will work and be dramatic, and other bits.... oh god! It could play really well, especially if JM and DB are on top form. But the Harmony stuff we have already heard about is still crass and tasteless. Anyway, the flashbacks sound good and illuminating, and we have dear Dru. Mega Angel/Spike fight could be cool. I'm clinging to the fact that James can pull off the jerky bits and not totally trash Spike's character... Unfortunately I can't reproduce Bub's summary here, but seek and ye shall find. In two places that I know of. If you need help, just ask
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Post by PokerKitten on Oct 17, 2003 14:04:00 GMT
That evil site stole it and removed the disclaimers and requests not to repost. tensai has produced a summary of the summary at Spoiler Slayer - www.spoilerslayer.com/archives/002458.phpI am tempted to do one too... Still very much conflicted about the tone of the episode.
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Post by PokerKitten on Oct 21, 2003 17:45:36 GMT
Okay, assuming that the hardened spoiler whores have found the summary, by fair means or foul *coughevilbuffynucough* I am going to ramble on about the episode as we know it at the moment... I find the flashbacks illuminating and relevant to the Nth degree, although I have always been partial to a decent flashback so the Furious One was on to a winner with me, there! The opening one revealing newly vamped William's and Angelus' first meeting just about sums up their whole relationship thereafter, don't you think?! The macho, hand-burning in the light contest, I mean - not the slashy subtext, although oh boy, is that there! The second flashback, with them in the carriage, Angelus with his bridal victim, and William saying that Dru is his destiny and him defending her against Angelus' insults is touching and very much the William we know pre and immediately post vamping. Very idealistic and romantic, how could you not love him, even if he is a silly boy to be so naive. But of course, Angelus likes nothing better than to psychologically destroy the people around him whether living or undead, and so in the next flashback, poor sweet William walks in on Angelus fucking Dru, and he is teased mercilessly about him saying Dru was his destiny. And later, as A and W fight over Dru, Angelus lectures his protege about there being no belonging, no deserving. He can take but not truly HAVE *ouch* William says he is wrong, he and Dru are forever (and you know what, they could have been, they maybe would have been if it wasn't for that pesky Slayer! Would Dru have played around with icky demons if she hadn't seen the Slayer all over him?). This is all atmospheric, instructive, revealing the roots of William's change in personality and how A and W's relationship developed. I love what I am reading, and think it will play fabulously well on screen... But how about the present day meat of the epsiode....?
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Post by PokerKitten on Oct 21, 2003 18:22:46 GMT
Okay, in the present we first see Spike nagging Angel for an office... and I mean, who can blame him?! Everyone else has one, there's no shortage of space, and poor lamb, he needs some sense of belonging doesn't he?! An office is the least they could do for him really... but nah! Angel has flounced into his own office.... The mail is really big in "Angel" this season, lol, and Spike gets some, personally addressed to him... Fishy! Who from? Why? And as he can't open it himself, Harmony does it for him [glow=red,2,300]*FLASH*[/glow] but nothing seems to have happened. But when Spike tries to walk through Angel's closed door, he can't.... because he is suddenly solid. WTF?! Is it really going to be as easy as that? Is it ever going to be explained properly? Is it a permanent thing? I sincerely hope it is something that will receive further attention because otherwise... weak, unimaginative writing guys! Don't let us down! More slashy moments when Spike feels up Angel in his corporeal excitement... I think I could live without this, but I'm sure it will be funny! And he does hug Gunn as well. This all seems perfectly natural.... but what the fucking hell were they thinking with his next experiment in being a real boy?! Kissing Harmony is one thing, using her as a sex toy is another - this is the guy who warded off Anya's advances all through S7, not to mention faith flirting - so yeah okay, he is overdue a good seeing to, but that isn't what the maturing, soulful Spike was in to.... And no matter what kind of a spin James is trying to put on the Spike/Harmony dynamic now, Spike always despised her! He loved syphilis more than her! He shuddered when she spoke, he fantasised about another woman when screwing her, he tried to kill her, he blatantly used her when he was down on his luck. She is the only true example we have of Spike being a bad boyfriend... So far in AtS 5 he has barely acknowledged her.... perhaps there is more going on between them in ep 7 which we don't know about yet. The post soul Spike has not treated any woman like this and yet the writers have him regressing back to BtVS S4 and it is quite upsetting. Can't he have a decent "I'm back" wank, or even go out and look for someone neutral to screw.... NO! He has to drag airhead Harmony off to an office and climb all over her, telling her to shut up and not spoil the mood mid coitus - ugh! This ain't Spike as we know him now! The knocking her out when she goes bloody eyed and bitey is fine as far as I am concerned, though. But the using of her as a sex object, and the crude way he speaks to her is just ghastly! Can they make this look better on screen than on paper? Can the writers change their minds in time and not make it so misogynistic a scene? Because Spike loves women! Am I reeled back in after this gag inducing spectacle? Well, yeah. Because we have those flashbacks.... And we have mega snark, fighting and truth telling to almost drive it from my mind!
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Post by PokerKitten on Oct 21, 2003 21:58:53 GMT
I quite like the fabric of reality unravelling - apart from it prompting a meaningless sexual encounter of the Sparmony kind - but it is a little puzzling. Two souled vamps - check. heroic - check. So, did Spike only become champion the instant before his "death" in the Hellmouth? Universal reality didn't seem to be unravelling like this all through BtVS S7, and although things were screwy AtS 4, everything was stil intact. So it is only NOW, after a year with his soul and doing good stuff that Spike becomes a catalyst to the unravelling, as soon as he is solid again? Hmmm. O-kaay.
And here comes the Shanshue stuff again. I quite like it as a plot device, I always have. Angel seemed to want it, need it, to keep him on the straight and narrow. He seemed to want a reward. Not so much of late. And if he was still unequivocally doing the right thing without really caring for the reward any more, well, that would be admirable and he would deserve it afterall! but he is of the morally suspect these days, IMO at least, so...
Anyway, everyone is discussing the prophecy with the help of an "underling" of Wesley's (for it seems he has offed his papa in ep 7 and is off attending to matters!), and it is revealed that the vamp with the soul has to drink from the Cup of Eternal Torment in order to restore balance, and the apparent location of said Cup is pinpointed as being Death Valley. Spike is off - and here another difference is highlighted between the two Soul Boys. Spike gets on and does, Angel broods a bit before being able to decide what to do. I'm looking forward to seeing Spike scream off in A's beloved Viper, and Angel make a call to him en route! ;D
Cutting a long story short, I'm also looking forward to seeing Spike beat Angel in the ensuing fight. We'd been allowed to forget that Spike really can handle himself in a bloody scrap, apart from, ironically enough, in LMPTM. Fury really does have a love-hate relationship with our hero.... And I like that they both seem intent on fighting to the death, but somewhere along the line, things change. I like that Spike tell Angel that he never really knew him - which is true. And that he is nothing like Brood Boy. I DON'T like the macho talk about boffing Buffy, but I'll get over it. it isn't as bad as the Harmony stuff.
I REALLY like that Spike deliberately DOESN'T make Angel dust when he has the upper hand, and instead gets on with the real job in hand and drinks from the Cup while Angel is dithering again. What is this about Mountain Dew, btw? Do we Brits have MD? I'd love to know why this is especially funny. Mountain Dew in the Cup of Eternal Torment ;D It is assumed that this is a trick, but when they get back to base, things are kinda back to what passes for normal... so what's up with that, huh? It was meant to be a kill or cure kinda thing, but folks don't seem to think this is a permanent realignment of the universe....
And so we are set up for what? A quest for the "real" cup? And we still don't know who made the [glow=red,2,300]FLASH[/glow]....
So, this was just my take on it all - big thumbs up - apart from the degrading (for both of them) Harmony stuff. Lots of backstory, lots of action, humour, angst. Hurrah!
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Post by PokerKitten on Oct 25, 2003 23:22:51 GMT
tensai has posted Eljay's summary - www.spoilerslayer.com/archives/002477.phpDestiny Summary: (Courtesy of Eljay)
Episode opens on a hotel suite in London, 1880. Drusilla enters with the recently turned William, who is kissing her hungrily. He asks if this is her home. She indicates the drained couple whose home it had been -- whom Angelus drained. William starts to ask who Angelus is and stops as he senses a presence near the bedroom door.
Drusilla is showing off her new creation to Angelus. She asks after Darla, and Angelus informs her that he and Darla had a squabble and she's off with the Master. He comes closer to study William, who eyes him warily. Drusilla asks if Angelus is angry with her. Angelus grabs William's wrist and drags it into sunlight where it sizzles. As William struggles to free his hand, Angelus comments about how tedious it is to only have female companions. William frees himself and warns Angelus not to try that again. Angelus muses on what it might be like to have a man to share his vampire fun with, casually cooking his own hand in the sunlight as he speaks He asks William if he thinks that makes him a deviant. Mesmerized, William stretches his own hand into the sunlight in reply. As Drusilla tut-tuts the whole business, Angelus tells William they're going to be great buddies.
Cut to the present, where Angel and Spike are arguing as usual. Spike wants an office, instead of having to hole up every night in someone else's digs. Angel tells Spike he's not an employee-- therefore no office. Spike asks why he can't have Wesley's office, since the ex-Watcher split. Angel replies that it's only temporary; Wes will be back. Spike comments derisively on how Wesley got all upset just because he thought he'd killed his father. Whereas Spike had killed his mother, because she was trying to seduce him. He suddenly realizes that Harmony is listening, and stops abruptly.
Harmony informs him that he has mail. Spike says huh? Harmony shows him a small package -- it's addressed to Spike, c/o Wolfram & Hart. Spike can't imagine who would be sending him mail. Harmony tells him the package doesn't say, and it's rather heavy, so would he mind taking it? Spike points out that that's kind of a problem. Ooops. Harmony offers to open it.
When Harmony opens the package, there's a bright flash, that quickly disappears. There's nothing in the package. Harmony and Spike look at each other, puzzled. Then the phone rings. Harmony answers it, but there are only weird electronic noises on the line. Spike shrugs the whole thing off, and heads for Angel's office, only to crash into the door as he tries to whoosh through it. Now lots of phones are ringing, up and down the hall. Spike is trying to figure out what happened. Angel comes out to see what's going on, just as Spike realized why he crashed into the door. He's corporeal again!
Spike rises, touches himself (no, not that way; no MA ratings here); touches the walls; touches Angel, who immediately protests. Spike is very excited. He can feel things again. He steals Angel's mug of blood and waxes rapturous over the taste. Gunn shows up to find out what's happening, and Spike envelops him in an enthused hug, as he tells Gunn that he's back. Gunn asks Angel how it happened. Angel hasn't a clue. Spike realizes that the flash from his mysterious package must be responsible.
Meanwhile, the phones are still ringing crazily all over the offices, and now the computers are acting up as well. Harmony is complaining when Spike grabs her for a smooch. She shoves him away. Spike tells Angel he needs to borrow Harmony for awhile. Harmony initially resists the idea, but when Spike compliments her outfit, she informs Angel she's out to lunch.
Flash back to 1880 again. In a carriage, Angelus and William are laughing hysterically, Angelus having just totally disrupted a wedding by killing the priest and the groom. Very messily. The hapless bride is in the carriage with them, and Angelus offers William a taste, but he defers to Angelus -- it's his prize. Besides, William wants to hook up with Dru. Angelus asks him what he thinks of Drusilla, and William says she made him what he was supposed to be. Like she was his destiny.
Back in the present, Spike and Harmony are making tracks down one of the hallways. Spike informs a young associate named Reese that he's borrowing his office. When Reese protests, Spike bodily forces him out. Harmony starts to disrobe (and I doubt we'll get all that far with that, or the warnings will come fast and furious). Complaining, Reese moves down the hall and starts bitching to another W&H employee, named Jerry. Until Jerry turns to him with bloody eyes and starts screaming about how nobody ever replaces the toner. The ranting continues as Jerry beats Reese to death with a fire extinguisher.
Meanwhile, Angel is giving orders for all the electronics to be shut down throughout the building. Gunn is still there with him. Fred shows up -- all the equipment in the lab is also going haywire. Angel realizes Spike drank all his blood and calls for Harmony. Gunn reminds him she's off having sex with Spike. Fred says huh? Angel tells her Spike is corporeal again. Fred wonders why nobody told her. Angel replies it just happened, and they had their hands full with the electronic emergency -- which he suddenly realizes happened to coincide with Spike's recorporealization. Fred starts speculating on how the two events might be connected. Maybe it's just a ripple effect, or maybe it's something more --
Like the end of the world perhaps. Eve shows up and informs them the whole universe is in chaos. The seers alerted her. They've got a BIG problem, connected to the shanshu prophecy. The vampire with a soul -- champion (there's that word again) -- is supposed to play a major role in the Apocalypse, for good or evil (nobody quite knows which). But the prophecy doesn't name Angel -- and now there are two vampires with souls; both of whom are champions. Spike qualified when he gave his life to save the world. While he was dead, it didn't matter, but now that he's back again, his mere presence is wreaking havoc.
Fred accuses Eve of knowing this the entire time she (Fred) was working on recorporealizing Spike. Eve says she didn't know and asks how they finally did it. They all look around sheepishly. Angel finally admits that Spike got something in the mail. Same way the amulet arrived in the mail. Fred wonders if the Senior Partners might be responsible. Eve doesn't know; all she knows is that the problems with the phones and computers are only a hint of the trouble to come.
Back in Reese's office, Harmony and Spike are going at it. Harmony suddenly vamps out and bites Spike's shoulder. Spike yowls and pulls himself free. He asks what's up with her -- sees her bloody eyes and realizes there's a problem. She accuses him of using her; says she's not his. He backs off, agreeing with her, trying to calm her down. She goes for him again, screaming about how he only cares about his precious Slayer, and he knocks her out.
Meanwhile, security guards have strapped down the still freaking Jerry. Lorne, standing nearby, is telling Angel and Eve about how Jerry clocked him as he came upon him making mince meat out of Reese. Another guard informs Angel there are other fatalities, and Angel orders the building sealed until they figure out the problem.
Eve tells him he knows the problem. The world isn't big enough for him and Spike -- it's unraveling. As she speaks, Spike shows up. He tells Angel what happened with Harmony and that he had to knock her out. Eve repeats that there's only room for one souled vampire champion in these parts.
Spike says fine -- he'll head off to Europe then. Eve tells him she's not talking about LA; she's talking about the entire world. Spike leaving could make things worse. Gunn shows up, shaken. Seems the White Room is gone, which means no contact with the Senior Partners, and a hefty rip in the universe.
Angel reluctantly asks Spike to stay -- Europe will still be there after they've solved this problem. Hopefully. Spike asks how they're supposed to repair a rip in the fabric of the universe. Eve wonders if there's maybe a way to figure out which of them the Shanshu prophecy is about. Angel grumbles that he's been reading the prophecy, and there's nothing to answer that. Spike reminds Angel that it wasn't long ago that Angel told Spike that the prophecy was bogus, and what does it mean that he's now reading it? Gunn points out that they need an expert on the Shanshu text, and Angel reminds him that Wesley isn't there. Eve points out that his department still is though.
A snippy, scholarly type named Sirk informs Angel that Angel did not read the prophecy. He merely read a translation. Sirk points out a newly translated portion that seems to indicate the splitting of the root of a tree into two parts, each of which will seek refreshment from a hidden river. He spouts out several other equally murky phrases, about the balance being disrupted, and concludes by talking about how the souled vampire will drink from the *cup of eternal torment*, and that further torments will be visited upon him until he saves the world or destroys it. After which, said vampire will have a clean slate and live again as a human.
Angel and Spike start squabbling over which of them is the souled vampire in question. Sirk tells them that it will work out the way it's supposed to work out -- whoever is supposed to drink from the cup will be the one to drink from the cup. And once that happens, the universe should realign.
Sirk reads further and informs them that the cup is located in a former opera house in Nevada. Angel resolves to go there -- and realizes that Spike has already left.
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Post by PokerKitten on Oct 25, 2003 23:23:42 GMT
continued...
Spike steals Angel's Viper and heads out. Angel is barely behind him in another car. Meanwhile, Gunn is trying to hold down the fort at W&H. Angel briefly catches up to Spike near the entrance to the old opera house, but after exchanging a few not-so-pleasantries, Spike is off again.
Back to 1880. William returns to their chambers, to find Angelus deeply involved in sexplay -- with someone who he is horrified to discover is Drusilla. Dru asks if William missed her, and Angelus replies that he definitely must have since Dru is his *destiny*. They both laugh at the hurting, angry young vampire.
Back to the present. Angel catches up with Spike again, as both stare at the very grail-like *cup of perpetual torment*. Spike comments that he's surprised it's so elaborate and fancy, considering what it is. Angel asks what do they do now, and Spike attacks him.
The two start sparring. Spike starts ranting about how they are not the same. That Angel had a soul forced upon him, whereas Spike fought for and earned his soul, even though he almost died a dozen times over in the trials, because it was the right thing to do. Angel retorts that he heard it was to get into someone's panties. A furious Spike moves back on the attack, and they're at it again.
Cut to W&H, where the problems are getting worse. More and more people are being affected. Eve is querying Fred on her progress, when Gunn starts demanding to know why Fred is telling Eve anything. His eyes bloody, he accuses Eve of trying to kill them, and starts to strangle her, then slash her Fred hypos him out for the count.
Back at the opera house, Angel and Spike are still at it. They're taunting each other. Spike tells Angel the prophecy isn't meant for Angel. Nobody knows which side the vamp with a soul will choose, but Angel's already chosen a side -- he allied himself with the evil Wolfram & Hart. Angel says it's more complex than that, but Spike always was an idiot.
Cut back to 1880 again. William tries to attack Angelus, but Angelus is quicker and shoves him up against the wall. Angelus explains that William can take whatever he likes or have whatever he likes, but nothing is actually his. William tells him he's wrong -- he and Drusilla are each other's forever. Angelus tells him -- if he wants her -- try and take her. As William moves to attack Angelus again...
Cut back to the present, where Spike is now beating the crap out of Angel. Spike is ranting about how the real reason that Angel can't stand the very sight of Spike is because he can't stand to remember all the terrible things Spike has done because Angel/us made him a monster. Angel laughs. He tells Spike he merely allowed the real Spike to get out. Spike retorts that Angel never even knew the real Spike -- he was too busy trying to see a mirror image of himself Wanting there to be someone every bit as loathsome as Angel/us in the world so he could stand himself. He -- Spike -- is nothing like Angel/us.
Angel retorts that Spike is less -- which is why Buffy could never love him. Spike retorts that he supposes then that Buffy was actually thinking of Angel every time he (Spike) and Buffy had sex --
And the fight is on again. Angel throws Spike into some wooden crates, which break apart, handing Spike a nicely convenient wooden *stake*. He manages to get the upper hand on Angel and tries to bring the stake down. Angel blocks the blow into his forearm. The two vamps go at it again.
Back at W&H, Fred is helping Eve, whose throat is sore, and who is very shaken. Eve is upset that they all think she's evil and against them. She assures Fred that she is not an enemy.
Back to the battle of the ages. Or the vampires. Spike and Angel are still fighting. Finally, Spike is able to get the advantage, knocking Angel's stake away, and knocking Angel to the ground. He jumps on Angel, preparing to bring his own stake down (slashy entendres not intended. No. Honest.) ... then hesitates momentarily ... then brings the stake down hard. Into Angel's shoulder. He remarks that he probably should have killed Angel, but he didn't want to hear a certain someone complain about it. He heads for the Cup of Perpetual Torment.
Angel staggers up and asks Spike to stop and think. It's not a prize -- it's a terrible burden and one that will consume him. Why is Spike doing this? Does he really want such an awesome, terrible destiny? Or does he just want to take something away from Angel?
Spike thinks for a few seconds -- and then admits it's a bit of both. And drinks. Angel is devastated.
Spike suddenly drops the cup, his face scrunched in horror. Angel moves to him, concerned.
Spike locks eyes with Angel. The cup contained Mountain Dew. Neither vamp is a happy vamp.
Back at W&H, a bashed-up Angel enters the lab, telling Fred he fell down some stairs. Fred admits things are getting worse, and she still hasn't found a way to stop it. Angel tells her the cup turned out to be a fake -- it was a setup. He mentions Sirk -- and Spike, just entering, equally bruised, says Sirk has inconveniently disappeared. As they wonder what to do next, Charles interrupts. He's lucid again, as are the other victims.
Shortly after, in Angel's office, Eve is explaining to Angel, Gunn and Spike that the Senior Partners were able to intervene and temporarily stabilize the universe. Unfortunately, they don't know anything more about Sirk than Angel does. And of course, the whole shanshu thing is still unresolved.
Spike decides he wants to go drinking to celebrate his corporeal body. He invites Gunn, but Gunn politely refuses, saying his head is killing him already. After Spike leaves, Gunn asks if Angel is okay. Angel is deeply troubled. Spike beat him. First time Spike ever beat him. Because Spike wanted it more than Angel did. And what if that means that Angel isn't really the vampire of prophecy after all?
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Post by PokerKitten on Nov 5, 2003 18:23:45 GMT
I totally love this ad so had to post it here, although it is on the main site too. If only their fighting DID end with this ep...well, maybe it does. Maybe they'll realise it's pointless....
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Post by PokerKitten on Nov 7, 2003 12:45:41 GMT
ANOTHER summary, lol! From Mythical BoardsEpisode08 -- DESTINY
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After Spike receives a strange package, Wolfram and Hart employees are possessed by evil… while Angel and Spike are set against each other in a quest that brings their 100-year-old rivalry to a head.
In 1880 London, Drusilla introduces Angelus to her latest “creation,” the vampire William (Spike), whom Angelus declares will be a great friend. In the present, Angel throws Spike out of his office yet again. Then Harmony hands Spike a package that came for him in the mail. Spike opens it, there’s a brief, bright flash… and a moment later all the phones in the office start ringing. Then Spike attempts to walk through the door as he always does, but he hits it, falls down, and then realizes: he’s corporeal again. Spike celebrates with a long, hungry gulp from Angel’s cup of otter’s blood, and then he grabs Harmony, makes a salacious comment about her dress, and pulls her out the door. Back in 1880, after Angelus and William enjoy a night out on the town together, Angelus watches as William goes off to find Drusilla. In the present Spike throws a young associate, Reese, out of his office, then pulls Harmony into the room and begins tearing off her clothes. Reese goes to complain to another employee, Jerry, but when Jerry turns around, blood runs from his eyes and he slams Reese in the head with a fire extinguisher, killing him. Meanwhile Angel, Gunn, and Fred wonder what to do about the still-ringing phones, and Fred reports that the computers are malfunctioning as well, as if the firm were experiencing some odd power surge. Angel says it started with the flash that turned Spike corporeal again, and then Eve reports that something has thrown the entire universe into catastrophic turmoil. She says it’s some sort of harbinger of the Shanshu Prophesy… and then reminds them that the Prophesy doesn’t actually name Angel as the vampire who becomes human again, implying that it could be Spike. She also reminds them that Spike is also the kind of “champion” mentioned in the prophesy, so now that he’s got his body back, all bets are off. She asks how Spike became solid again. Angel tells her about the package, and Fred asks if it could have come from the Senior Partners. Eve says she knows only what she’s heard, and that what she does know is that the harbinger heralds something very dangerous. Meanwhile, in Reese’s office, as Harmony makes love to Spike, her eyes fill with blood, she morphs into vampface, and then sinks her teeth into his shoulder.
Spike knocks Harmony out while a security guard subdues Jerry after he attacks Lorne. The guard reports to Angel that there have been two other attacks reported as well, and Angel orders the building sealed until they can figure out what’s causing the employees to turn into bloody-eyed monsters. Eve says it’s happening because there’s only supposed to be one vampire with a soul in the world, and having two now is throwing everything out of whack. Spike offers to leave, but Eve says it wouldn’t help, since he’d still be in the same universe. She says that if they can figure out which of them the Shanshu Prophesy really refers to, they might be able to right things. Since the one person who knows the most about the Prophesy — Wesley — has taken a leave of absence, Angel, Eve, Gunn, and Spike go to speak with another scholar from Wes’s office, Sirk, who pulls out an ancient version of the prophesy, and in translation, says it refers to a “Cup of Perpetual Torment” which the vampire in question must drink from to have his past washed clean and return to mortal form. (This would also presumably return the universe to its normal state as well). Gunn asks where the Cup is and Sirk, after checking its history, says it’s in Death Valley at a place called the Columns, which Angel says is an old opera house that was buried in a 1938 earthquake. Angel says he’ll go there, but Spike has already vanished, and soon the two of them are chasing each other down the highway. A bit later Angel reaches the remains of the opera house, but Spike is already there… and they both head off to find the Cup. Then, in a flashback to 1880, William enters Drusilla’s bedchamber, but finds Angelus already in bed with her, gloating over his triumph. Back in the present, however, when Angel finally reaches the opera house stage where the Cup of Perpetual Torment rests on a pedestal, Spike drops in ahead of him, and punches Angel.
Of course Angel strikes back, and the fight escalates as the two men vent all the rage that’s been building between them for more than 100 years. Meanwhile, back at Wolfram and Hart, Fred tells Gunn that she can’t find any patterns among the 32 employees who have been affected by the murderous transformations. Gunn turns to her, but his eyes are dripping blood, and he grabs Eve by the throat, strangling her. Fred hits him over the head with a tray, knocking him out before he can finish the job. Back at the old theater the fight continues, and we flash back to 1880 again, as William and Angelus fight over Drusilla. In the present again, it’s nearly the same fight… only this time they trade barbs about which one of them Buffy really loved. Then, finally, Spike stabs Angel in the arm, they both morph into vampface and the conflict revs up yet another notch.
Back at Wolfram and Hart, Fred tends to Eve, who says she doesn’t want Fred’s sympathy, but does want her to know that she’s not really the “bad guy” Fred seems to think. At the opera house Spike finally sends Angel reeling with a wooden stake to the shoulder. Then Spike picks up the Cup. Angel warns him that it’s not a prize but a burden he’ll take on if he sips from it, but Spike downs the contents anyway. A moment later his face contorts in horror as he tastes… Mountain Dew. They realize they’ve both been had, and a bit later Angel returns, battered and bloody, to the office. Since Sirk was the one who sent him after the Cup, he asks Fred where Sirk is, but then Spike enters, also battered and bloody, and reports that Sirk has vanished. They start to wonder what they’re going to do about all the possessed employees, but then Gunn and Harmony — tied up nearby — snap out of their trances. A bit later Eve reports that the Senior Partners found a “temporary” solution, but she also notes that since there are still two vampires with souls, the Shanshu dilemma hasn’t been solved. Finally everyone but Gunn leaves Angel’s office, and Gunn asks Angel if he’s going to be all right. Angel thinks about it, then confesses that Spike won the fight and beat him to the Cup… which makes him wonder if Spike really is the “one” after all.
Nothing new there that I can glean, but I'll leave it up as a piece of info anyway.
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Post by Cyrus on Nov 13, 2003 5:21:56 GMT
I did get to see the trailer for this episode... but only once at work and not at home rewinding and watching and rewinding and watching... Some new "flashback" scenes with Fledgling!Spike and Angelus and Dru... Dru laying on a bed with Angelus standing in front of her, her legs around his waist... figure it out yourself... and Spike comes in while they're busy... Some Spike/Angel foreplay wrestling... And I really don't remember much else... like I said, I only got to see it once... I'll watch it again later...
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Post by PokerKitten on Nov 13, 2003 12:03:05 GMT
It's a pity we couldn't have Darla back for a brief scene (I restrained myself from typing for a quickie, heh!), but I hope she is at least mentioned in passing.
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Post by Cyrus on Nov 13, 2003 12:08:14 GMT
It'd be neat to have Darla there... season 2 Angel after her and Dru killed the lawyers was on today... those two are great together! In a non f/f kind of way... *ducks broom* I'll be quiet now... just agreeing with you on wanting Darla's precense...
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Post by PokerKitten on Nov 13, 2003 12:35:45 GMT
No need to duck. My fave part of "Angel" anytime was the Darla storyline in S2, and when Dru and Darla got together it was FANFUCKINGTASTIC!! They have never reached such dizzying heights since, in the series, IMO. And there was that one shot, when D and D had been causing mayhem, and then they both turned and did a slow sashay down the street... hooboy, they were HOT!! ;D Darla was quite sneery back in the day, came over quite superior (which is funny knowing her human history!), so would have liked her to be in these flashbacks too, maybe to sneer at William a bit, and be bored with Angel boffing Dru to get one up on William.
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Post by Cyrus on Nov 14, 2003 11:07:45 GMT
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Post by PokerKitten on Nov 14, 2003 11:49:42 GMT
I liked it! Totally misleading, as promos tend to be, but if I was a casual viewer I'd be excited to see it! As a non-casual, totally invested viewer I am biting my nails down to my knuckles, especially when I know more about it!
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Post by Cyrus on Nov 14, 2003 22:04:16 GMT
I'm having trouble downloading the Slayerverse one, but there is one (and I think it is a different one, as the file sizes and formats are very different) at TheWB. Quicktime needed. I think it is the same one. - PK
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Post by PokerKitten on Nov 15, 2003 0:35:19 GMT
Arkanium often get the first of the promo pics for an ep, but then they plaster their name all over it, so I don't usually bother bringing the links over. However, this one is GOOD! My, hasn't Spike got a BIG one! www.arkanium.com/article.php3?id_article=14
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