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Post by PokerKitten on Nov 15, 2003 17:51:41 GMT
The webmistress at Charisma's site - Charisma-Carpenter.com has confirmed that CC wil indeed appear in what will be the 100th episode. But confirmation is only for this ONE. So you can only guess what may happen or whether Cordelia's situation is in any way resolved, at this time.
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Post by PokerKitten on Nov 19, 2003 12:43:54 GMT
We're probably not gonna get a lot of help with this ep until a source gets the script, because it will revolve around our core characters and the return of Cordy (hurrah!). There is one teeny tiny, oh so small casting side out, but it does show us a bit of Cordy/Angel interaction. Yeah! The scene starts with Angel and Eve, who are in the W&H lobby, but Eve leaves. Angel watches her go, and then calls Harmony over, telling her that he wants Security to keep an eye on Eve while she's in the building. Angel turns to see Cordelia in the doorway. She questions him about Izzy (who is a demon and the character the casting script is for, natch), asking him is this the kind of person he deals with now. She tells him he's made a deal with the devil. ;D Angel says she is being dramatic, and tries to make excuses, but as he does this, Izzy turns up. And Izzy is described as being like the very devil! Izzy shakes hands with Angel and says goodbye, leaving Cordy gawping, which confuses Angel. Then he realises, and says that it's not what it seems..... Cordy, however, wants none of it. She turns and walks away.
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Post by PokerKitten on Dec 2, 2003 21:41:48 GMT
ADDITIONAL CAST
Cordelia CHARISMA CARPENTER Harmony MERCEDES MCNAB Eve SARAH THOMPSON Lindsay CHRISTIAN KANE Demon Slave RYAN ALVAREZ Lawyer T.J. THYNE Izzy MARK COLSON
PRODUCTION CREDITS Written and Directed by DAVID FURY
Some surprises - we knew about Charisma of course, but they are crediting CK for the first time, even though this will be his third ep. And I have only seen a side for Izzy, but here we have a lawyer and a demon slave too.
Aha, that's because we have seen them before! i was going to make a remark about horny Sebassis' S&M looking slave, but thought nah... but it is the actor, it seems. And the lawyer guy has been in a coupla eps too.
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Post by PokerKitten on Dec 8, 2003 22:39:31 GMT
Angel Foe's Tattoo Secret by Daniel R. Coleridge
Christian Kane
Last month on Angel, Eve freaked us out by crawling into bed with none other than Lindsey McDonald! The evil Wolfram & Hart lawyer was MIA until the "Destiny" episode, which revealed him as her secret lover. Who knew Christian Kane, who plays Lindsey, was so tattooed and muscular? "I've been off the show for two and a half years, man," he tells Guide Online. "I had some time to hit the gym."
By the way, although Kane does have tattoos of his own, the tats we've seen onscreen are fake. According to a setside source, they represent a code which Angel's gang will decipher in the show's 100th episode, "You're Welcome," airing Feb. 4. Damn! Can't we get a hint of their mysterious meaning before then? C'mon, Christian, hook us up...
"I know what the tats mean," Kane admits. "I just can't tell you! 'Cause then, I'd have to kill you. And if I did tell, then [Angel creator] Joss Whedon would probably kill me. It will all be revealed in that big episode."
www.tvguide.com/news/insider/031208b.asp
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Post by PokerKitten on Dec 15, 2003 23:37:03 GMT
Ep summary from Mythical BoardsEpisode 12
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™ and © 2003-2004 Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation. All rights reserved. Watch Angel on The WB on Wednesdays, at 9pm
When Lindsey returns and tries to defeat Angel using a secret “failsafe” entity created by the Powers That Be, Cordelia emerges from her coma to help save Angel.
After discovering a particularly gruesome crime committed by a Wolfram and Hart client, Angel finally says he no longer wants to run the company… and at that very moment, in a hospital room across town, Cordelia finally awakens from her coma. A bit later, as Angel’s friends try to talk him out of quitting, he gets a call from the hospital. Angel and Wesley rush there and find Cordelia up and about, ready to leave. They bring her back to the law firm, where she greets Lorne, Fred, and Gunn, and asks if Connor is there, too… but this question is met with blank stares. Before she can ask why, however, Harmony walks in and Angel explains to a shocked Cordelia that Harmony is now his secretary. After the others leave, Cordelia tells Angel that she was awakened from her coma by one of her old painful visions from the Powers That Be, this time of Angel in trouble. Just then Eve walks in. Angel introduces the women, and when Eve makes it clear to Cordelia that she and Angel slept together, Angel ushers Eve out and instructs Harmony to have security keep an eye on her. Meanwhile Spike, at his apartment, receives a visit from his tattooed benefactor, whom he calls “Doyle” but we recognize as Lindsey. Spike asks Lindsey if he’s had any new visions, but before Lindsey can answer, he gets a call from Eve, alerting him that Cordelia is back… and steering Angel toward him.
Later Cordelia watches an old videotape of the real Doyle, waxing nostalgic for the good old days, before Angel got “seduced” by Wolfram and Hart. Angel insists he did it all for Connor, and tells her how he negotiated a normal life for him in exchange for his current employment. Angel says everyone is doing fine now, but Cordelia says that’s not true, and the Powers That Be woke her to help get Angel back on track as a champion. Angel tells her that Spike is really the champion now, which convinces her even more firmly that Angel’s in big trouble. Meanwhile Lindsey and Eve snuggle together in Lindsey’s bedroom, discussing the Senior Partners’ potential reaction to Lindsey’s reappearance. The next morning Wesley and Cordelia research the tattoos she saw in her vision, and Wesley finally figures out that they’re some kind of concealment spell which protects the bearer from being seen by any kind of surveillance mechanism. At the same time, Lindsey sneaks into a Wolfram and Hart maintenance area, uses a keycard to open the door to a restricted area, and proceeds into a cave-like chamber protected by laser beams… which don’t react at all when he walks through them. A security camera also fails to capture his image, and Lindsey proceeds to a failsafe chamber where a demon scientist, with a quartz-like rock in his neck, bends over a control panel. Lindsey kills the demon, digs the rock from its neck, and turns to the control panel. Meanwhile, as Cordelia wanders the hallways of Wolfram and Hart, she comes face to face with Spike… who grabs her and plunges his fangs into her neck.
Angel pulls Spike off Cordelia, but Spike says he was just doing a “taste test” because a “source” told him Cordelia has been turned into a demon. Spike says the source’s name is Doyle, but when he calls him “tattoo-boy,” Angel and Cordelia perk up. Meanwhile, down the hall, Eve sees them talking and calls Lindsey, who’s still in the failsafe chamber. He says he’s almost ready and tells her to leave the building. She starts to move, but then Angel and Cordelia grab her. In Angel’s office a few minutes later, Angel tells Eve about the tattooed man who’s been talking to Spike, and asks if Eve is working with him. Eve plays dumb, but then Harmony reports that all the other employees have left the building, and Angel demands that Eve tell him what’s going on. Meanwhile Lindsey climbs onto the control panel in the failsafe chamber and inserts the crystal. The console lights up and a series of electronic locks start to open. Upstairs, Eve still refuses to talk. Angel declines Cordelia’s request to torture Eve, but Harmony is happy to oblige, grabbing Eve and smacking her in the face. Finally Eve says the Powers That Be created some sort of failsafe, which lives under the building and is specifically designed to destroy Angel if the need arises. Angel asks how to stop it, and she says the only control is in the chamber downstairs. They realize “Doyle” must be down there now, activating the thing, so Angel asks Spike to describe Doyle again, and when he mentions a severed hand, they realize it’s Lindsey. Harmony guards Eve while Angel, Spike, and Cordelia head for the failsafe chamber. On their way downstairs they pass through the laser beams, which sound an alarm summoning six zombie guards. Spike fights them off while Angel and Cordelia proceed to the failsafe chamber. Angel lunges at Lindsey, who’s approaching a huge containment ring. Then Lindsey hits back with surprising, superhuman strength, and sends Angel flying.
As Angel and Lindsey square off with swords, Cordelia goes to the control platform and pushes buttons. A huge container starts to rise from below, filled with roiling fog and a huge, monstrous form. Meanwhile, in Wesley’s office, Wes, Fred, Gunn, and Lorne put together items — including a quantity of Lorne’s blood — for a magic spell. Downstairs, as the sword fight continues, Lindsey disarms Angel and runs his blade through Angel’s heart. Lindsey circles Angel, mocking him, but Angel just pulls the sword from his heart and attacks again. Meanwhile Cordelia keeps pushing buttons on the failsafe platform until the machinery finally powers down, and the big chamber hisses back into the ground. As it closes off, Angel smashes Lindsey into the floor. He tries to get up, but before he can, Angel and Cordelia point out that his magical tattoos are lifting up off his skin (a result of the incantation Wesley is chanting over a glowing bowl upstairs). Then, finally, a portal to the Powers That Be opens up, and Lindsey is sucked into it. A bit later Angel and his friends throw Eve out. After she leaves, the others decide to go out for a drink, but Cordelia stays behind with Angel. He thanks her for her help and says he feels better about his job now. She assures him he’ll win the big fight, and says she wishes she could be here to see it… but that she can’t stay because it’s just not her life any more. Angel says he needs her, but she says she’s on another road now, and turns to leave. Finally, though, she turns back and kisses Angel warmly. Then they break apart and she leaves, leaving Angel alone.
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Post by Cyrus on Jan 22, 2004 16:04:53 GMT
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Post by PokerKitten on Jan 22, 2004 17:06:25 GMT
Charisma looks fantastic! Heh, Spike/Cordy biteage
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Post by PokerKitten on Jan 25, 2004 13:30:10 GMT
'Angel' Seeks Redemption with Episode 100 By Kate O'Hare
This past November, in the vast, echoing expanse of the Wolfram & Hart lobby, The WB Network's "Angel" proved that any death knells sounded for it were entirely premature.
The Wednesday-night drama with the undead title character is very much alive, and executives from both The WB and studio 20th Century Fox showed up to cut a big cake (dripping with blood-red icing, of course) and sing its praises on the occasion of its 100th episode, airing Feb. 4.
Spun off from "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," "Angel" has spent four-and- a-half seasons with David Boreanaz as the 200-plus-year-old vampire with a soul, struggling to redeem himself by good deeds.
"Usually spinoffs are just cynical things," says WB entertainment chief Jordan Levin, "but this really extended a story that needed to be told."
This season has seen Angel facing two major challenges. First, he must figure out how to do good while running the Los Angeles office of the evil law firm that once wanted his head on a platter. Second, he must deal with the resurrection of his former vampire protege, Spike (James Marsters) -- whose fiery demise in the cause of world salvation in the "Buffy" finale turns out to have been only temporary. As the other vampire with a soul, Spike's heroic deeds have made Angel question his own commitment to the cause.
Oh, and along the way, Angel deals with the odd werewolf, demon, ghost and Mexican wrestler.
One hallmark of both "Buffy," created by Joss Whedon, and "Angel," created by Whedon and David Greenwalt, is the use of subtext and classic literary themes. While some shows have their themes articulated by loyal viewers with the time to think about it all, these shows know what they're trying to say.
While "Buffy" was about (take your pick) female empowerment, the hero's journey and the ties that bind, in the case of "Angel," Whedon explains, "The idea of the show was redemption and what it takes to win back a life when you've misused yours terribly. 'Angel,' to me, is so important because it's about how an adult faces what they've done with their life, goes forward with it, overcomes it. It has a great deal of meaning to me ... plus, awesome fights.
"If I have any message for America, it's that you can solve problems through fisticuffs."
But seriously, redemption is a tricky theme on television, with its ever-present risk of sliding into pretentious puffery or treacly moralizing. But it's an idea that cuts straight across "Angel," as each of the main characters struggles to come back from loss in one way or another and prove his or her worth. That's especially true of the vampires, who have a lot to answer for.
Angel was cursed with his soul and, after a century of wandering about aimlessly, was spurred into rejoining the human race and using his powers for good. Spike, on the other hand, driven by guilt and a desire to be a man worthy of Buffy's love (a love she once gave freely to Angel), risked life and limb to get his soul back -- and wound up saving the world.
"Angel doesn't seem to register that Spike has a soul," Marsters says. "It's the same reason that Spike never believed Angel having a soul. When I was evil, I didn't buy it. Now that I have a soul, I don't buy that he's reformed at all.
"The reason is, I've seen him in action. I've seen him kill too many people to ever believe that he could be reformed. It's exactly the same for him. He's seen Spike do so much stuff that all this prancing around, pretending that he cares now, has gotta be bull, but it's not. That's the wonderful thing. They both are reformed; they both are trying very hard to make up for it."
In the 100th episode, "You're Welcome," Angel cohort Cordelia awakens from the mystical coma she's been in since the end of last season. That was the last we saw of her, as former regular Charisma Carpenter was dropped from the cast. Always outspoken, Cordelia has a few things to say about Angel consorting with corporate evil.
"Investing him in the cause of good while he's running the evil operation doesn't really make sense," Boreanaz says, "so he doesn't understand. That's what's bringing him down. Cordelia brings that back to him."
Calling her one-off return "bittersweet," Carpenter says, "She comes to put Angel back on the path, and then she leaves. Cordelia's return in this episode is a love letter to Cordelia."
So, underneath all "Angel's" monster makeup and kung-fu fighting, Marsters insists there's real meat on these bones. "Joss always aims so high in his themes. He's got two people striving to be good, in the real world.
"That sounds strange to say, because it's got vampires and stuff, but to not be coy, to not be overly sentimental, to not be overly simplistic about it -- how do you reform your life? If you really have done evil, how do you face the world and try to become your best self? How do you talk about these things?
"Man, redemption, it's what we all hope for, because frankly, we all know we've done evil. We're all human beings, and all of us have. We all have regret; we all have deep guilt; and we all, at the inner core of us, want to believe that we can redeem ourselves."
While Boreanaz may not have come to the lead role in "Angel" seeking redemption, he did have a short resume and a lot to prove.
A steadying presence on-screen and off, he takes a Zen approach. "Believe in yourself and put your mind to it. That's not the problem. The problem is that there are no problems." zap2it
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Post by PokerKitten on Jan 28, 2004 12:29:13 GMT
All credit goes to Exploding Guru from TWOP forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=e16d1ee8a04cdc6d755bc8c95e471489&showtopic=2879855&st=1530entry944333
Exploding Guru Jan 28, 2004 @ 2:52 am Speaking of dying...
I've just watched You're Welcome.
For anyone who was concerned that this episode wouldn't have enough Cordelia, this episode is basically an Angel/Cordelia/Lindsey three-hander.
The episode opens with Angel & Co. investigating a nun slaughter and realizing a Wolfram client has escaped dimensions. Then we cut to the W&H hospital, where Cordy wakes up.
Wes and Angel go to visit Cordy. It's actually pretty cute between them and CC is charming. She looks pretty good - she attributes it to the whole demonic possession thing, which, other than the adverse side effects, "I really recommend it!"
The first and second act is almost wholly comprised of "Cordelia catches up with people" scenes. She loves Gunn's new hair...Fred hugs her and silently thinks "I can't wait until the next episode where I'm the female lead again"...Lorne offers her a part with Colin Farrell, to which recently comatose Cordy replies, "Who's Colin Farrell?" Cordy also brings up Connor and everyone but Angel is confused. She's interrupted in her Connor questioning by a squealing Harmony.
Meanwhile, Spike is playing videogames and trying out his new hands. Lindsey visits him, still called "Doyle." They bond over their history of chopped-off hands. When Lindsey gets notified by Eve that Cordelia is awake, he sics Spike after Cordy.
At W&H, Cordy is watching a clip of the real Doyle, Glenn Quinn, in Angel's bedroom. It's nice.
In Lindsey's apartment, Shirtless Lindsey and Eve snuggle. Eve calls him out on his HoYay and says that Angel is clearly the center of Angel's world. No duh. Lindsey weakly protests that the center of his world is Eve. Sure, Lindsey.
Back at W&H, Cordy guilts out Angel for working there. Blah blah blah. She also alludes to the C/A ship but I tried to pretend that didn't happen. Then she sasses up Eve, which is more fun. Eventually, Spike returns to W&H and attacks Cordy, thinking she's evil. Angel knocks him away and Spike blubbers about how "Doyle" told him that Cordelia was back and possessed. When Spike mentions that his "Doyle" was tattooed, they connect it to the vision from the PTB that sent Cordy back. Then he mentions how his informant had a chopped-off hand. Lindsey.
Lindsey enters the building from the basement, passes through due to his cloaking tattoos, kills some dude, and activates a building failsafe. Almost everyone evacuates but for the MoG and Eve. Angel puts Harmony on Eve-watching duty, the inessential supporting members on inessential Lindsey spellcasting duty, and then heads down to the basement with Cordy and Spike.
In the basement, they fight zombies. Then Angel and Cordy leave Spike to deal with Lindsey in the failsafe chamber. Lindsey and Angel fight. Lindsey is super-strong, tries to psyche Angel out, and then takes off his shirt and fights Angel barechested. It's like the beginning of some wonderful slash story. Cordelia blunders in the background, deactivating the failsafe. Eventually, the supporting actors' Offscreen Spellcasting magically removes Lindsey's tattoos and he's sucked into a portal to deal with the PtB.
Cordy and Angel talk in Angel's office that night. She now tells him that she's proud of him and that him working at W&H is totally awesome! I don't really buy it. She sounds way psyched about it and then says "But my road is taking me somewhere else," which is abrupt, to say the least. She really doesn't explain it to any satisfying degree and it's initially bizarre, because she seemed to really love being back with the gang. CC cries and sputters like she's just been told to leave the set and doesn't want to. If you are looking for the meta, you will find it throughout this scene. Then Cordy macks on Angel for about fifteen seconds. No. Bad. The phone rings and Angel says he doesn't have to get it. She says he does, so he goes over to the phone. As he picks it up out-of-shot, she sadly says, "You're welcome" and leaves.
So I was ready to pronounce that the unlikeliest character exit in quite some time, although the episode was pretty good. But it keeps going. Angel is taking the phone call and says, "I know, she's right-" and turns and looks. Cordelia is gone. The phone call continues and Angel's voice begins to crack. "When did she die? So she never woke up?" Dude, they killed off Cordelia.
Although, if Cordelia was really never awake, Eve's W&H intelligence must not be that good, since Eve thought she was. Stupid Eve.Hmmmm......
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Post by Cyrus on Jan 28, 2004 20:46:47 GMT
Ummm this makes no sense... I still haven't watched last week's ep, so I'm a bit behind, but I'm still like WTF?!
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Post by PokerKitten on Jan 29, 2004 22:42:02 GMT
Here's a pretty detailed summary, from persephonemoon's Live JournalWe open on an S1-ishly lit scene wherein Angel & co are tracking a rogue client. They've tracked him as far as a church, but the trail ends there...in a pile of dead nuns. Fredlet is really squicked out, and wonders out loud why the client would do this, when all they asked him to do was to shut down operations, and they'd leave him alone? (Actually, Gunn may have said that last bit.) Angel is cranky and pissed off, and snaps "Well, gee, he's our client AND he's evil. What are the odds?" At this point, Wes figures out that the killing of 5 holy women isn't a random choice of victims, and the client has escaped through a dimensional portal. ("Also not surprisingly, one of our clients practices the black arts.") (And, side note, all those years of killing nuns, and Angel never found out you could use them to move between dimensions?)
Angel is now seriously peeved. He announces that he's quitting, he can't do this anymore, and storms out. (Hello anti-Reunion.)
In a hospital bed, Cordy suddenly snaps awake.
Opening credits.
Back in Angel's office (hey, I thought he quit!), the gang is discussing this quitting notion that Angel's suddenly had. Angel doesn't see what the problem is, but Gunn points out that the SP's probably wouldn't just let them walk away. Angel challenges Gunn as to whether he really thinks that, or if he's just saying it because he wants to stay. Gunn admits that it's a little of both. He really believes they're doing good work there, and he doesn't want to leave. As the conversation continues, Harmony bursts in with the news that Cordelia is awake.
[INSERT MISSING TRANSITION SHOT] to a hospital room (did I mention this was a rough cut?), Angel and Wes peeking into the doorway. They see a woman in a hospital bed, but from their angle, all they see is her legs. "Cordy?" They tiptoe in, thinking she's asleep or (pleasegodno) back in the coma, since she's not moving or responding in any way. Except, wait! Here comes Cordy, striding in from the other side of the bed, quickly pulling the curtain on the woman in bed behind her. "Hey, next time I'm in a coma, could you shell out for a private room and not stick me in here with Little Miss One-foot-in-the-grave?" Angel interupts her with a big bear hug. He eventually lets go, and Wes gets his turn. They marvel at how great she looks. (Wes: "I want to say you look....really hot." Cordy: "Oh go ahead, you can say it.") Cordy says some stuff about how rested and great she feels, and how except for the part where a higher power hijacked her body so it could give birth to itself, she highly recommends the mystical coma experience. So she remembers...? "Last year? Yeah. Did you bring me any clothes?" Um. Er. Oops. "But, we could go SHOPPING for clothes!" Wes, to the rescue! Great idea! There is jumping and clapping.
They arrive at W&H, in a scene not unlike the MoG's original entrance to W&H in Home, except that it's a different set. Angel reassures Cordy that it's okay, she can come in, it's different now, nothing monstrous is going to jump out at her. Naturally, the second she steps out of the elevator, the Archduke and his little blood-wine slave walk by. Eep! Everyone is gathered in the lobby to give Cordy a big hug and welcome back. Cordy is amazed that Gunn has hair now. She also wants to know where Connor is. "Who?" "Connor, where's Connor? You know, Angel's so--" in bounds Harmony for a tackle hug. "Surprised to see me?" "Well yeah, considering that the last time we met, you tried to kill us..." Oh, right. Angel explains that Harmony's his secretary now, which goes over about as well as can be expected. As Cordy and Angel head for his office, she starts in yelling at him for having lost his mind and making a deal with the devil. Angel says she's exaggerating, but right then, a red, horned, pointy-tailed demon walks up to shake his hand and make sure they're still on for racquetball on Saturday. Hee.
In Angel's office, Cordy says that the reason she woke up is that she had a vision about Angel being in trouble. There was a man with tattoos in her vision, and there's a woman standing behind you. "In your vision, there's a woman standing behind me?" "No, right now." Oh, hello Eve. Angel asks why the security team let her in the building. Eve laughs and says she's liason to the Senior Partners, and Angel can't control her comings and goings. Well, not her goings, anyway. Cordy, no fool, picks up the innuendo and says "Wow, and I thought Darla was the bottom of the barrel." Angel protests that it was only one time, under special circumstances -- "Lorne told us to! Mystically!" And with that, Eve strides out annoyingly.
More serious now, Cordy begs Angel to tell her what he really thinks he's doing here. Angel protests that he's doing fine (liar), but Cordy knows better, and tells him so.
Meanwhile, Eve is calling Lindsey to let him know that Cordy's awake, which was not part of their plan, and may mean that TPTB are on to them, which would be a BIG PROBLEM. Lindsey says he'll take care of it.
(commercial break here? I think?)
Pretty sure the next scene is Cordy, in Angel's bedroom, watching Doyle's Angel Investigations commercial from S1. They reminisce about Doyle, and how he died (but I don't think they ever use his name, oddly), and those days when they were out on the streets helping the helpless. Angel shrugs and says TPTB have Spike doing that now. Oh yeah, Spike has a soul now. He's the new big hero in town. Cordy tears into Angel, telling him he's been bought, with all this expensive furniture, and shiny cars, and spectacular views [INSERT MISSING SHOT: CORDELIA'S SPECTACULAR VIEW]...this transitions into Cordy asking about Connor again, and Angel tells her about how accepting the W&H deal meant being able to give Connor a real life, a real childhood, with no memories of Angel, and now nobody else remembers Connor, except Angel, and Cordy. And for some reason, Eve. Cordy then really explodes, saying that not only has he gotten into bed with Evil, Incorporated, he also let them rape the memories of the friends who trusted him? But Connor was about to kill you, Angel says, and himself. It was the only way to save you...and him. Cordy lets up a little, but is still visibly disturbed by the choices Angel has made. She doesn't recognize him anymore. Angel asks her to tell him what he used to be like, and she does -- I can't remember the exact speech, but it's something along the lines of, really good guy who helped people even when he was miserable, which was not a small percentage of the time. It ends with "That's the man I fell in l--that's the..who I remember." After a brief pause, she asks him if he ever thinks about what might have happened if they had been able to meet up that night (Tomorrow), if they'd had their chance to talk..."All the time," says Angel. But then again, maybe people like them aren't meant to have...that...you know? "Angel," she says, "There ARE no people like us."
Cut to Lindsey and Eve, lounging on the porch. Eve is worried about what Cordy's being awake could mean. Lindsey is not. He likes high stakes, and he'll take Angel down no matter what it takes. Grrrrrrr.
In Spike's apartment, he's playing Donkey Kong. (Or not -- he's talking to the screen about "barrel-throwing monkeys," but the console on top of the is clearly an X-box. This is the kind of comment that outs people as big geeks, isn't it?) Lindsey comes in, asks why Spike isn't out on the streets saving people from demons. Spike says hey, got my hands cut off, I'm just trying to build motor skills here, k? You couldn't understand the kind of pain I'm in. Lindsey probably knows he should keep his mouth shut here, but can't resist saying "Actually...yeah I do. Got my hand cut off a few years back. So I do know what kind of pain you're in." Spike retorts "Well, half as much, anyway." Lindsey gets a phone call, and Spike goes back to his game. Eve, on the other end, is freaking out again. Spike gives up in disgust and starts hitting the , as Lindsey once again assures Eve that everything will be fine.
(This next scene may be in the wrong place.) Cordy and Wes are doing research in his office. As usual, it's slow going, and Cordy asks why, when she said "no, don't give it to your apartment, let's just you and me hit the books like old times," did Wes listen to her? It was a stupid idea. Wes admits that he kind of missed these research sessions, "just you and me...kickin' it old school, as they say. And (off Cordy's look) which I never will again." Cordy delicately brings up the subject of last year, and Wes says that everyone understands, it wasn't her. She didn't kill Lilah. Even so, Cordy says, she's sorry. Sitting down as she says this, she knocks a book over, which falls open to the page with all the glyphs on it. Seems these glyphs allow the wearer to avoid detection "from above." Which means (apparently) that not only is Lindsey shielded from SP detection, but can also get past modern surveillence equipment. Because THAT makes logical sense.
As if on cue, we then cut to Lindsey in the basement of W&H, clearly having gotten past all their surveillence equipment somehow. He calls Eve on her cell phone and tells her he's in, and she should leave the building.
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Post by PokerKitten on Jan 29, 2004 22:43:46 GMT
continued...
Back at W&H, Cordy is standing in a hallway, lost (mumbles something about "rat's nest" as a lawyer brushes by "complete with rats!"), when she sees Spike approaching her. She says hey, Spike, Angel says you're not evil anymore, in which case that hair is just silly...at which point Spike vamps out, pins her to the wall, and takes a bite. Angel swoops in and breaks it up, saying if he ever touches her again, he'll kill him. Spike says "I thought she was evil!" Cordy: "Well, I'm not!" Spike: "I have a soul now!" Cordy: "Well, clearly, mine's better!"
(Here's another point where I'm not entirely sure I've got the scene-order correct.) Lindsey is standing at the foot of a stairwell, with criss-crossing laser beams covering the floor of the next room. There is a pause, as if something amazingly cool is about to happen, and then he walks right on through them, having no effect. He waves to the security camera, which also can't see him. He attacks a demon and pries a jewel out of its neck, and then heads off to a room with a console, which he activates with the jewel.
They reconvene in Angel's office, having by now figured out that Spike's mysterious source has been playing him. Cordy drags Eve in with her by the ear, saying "Come on, Lilah Junior." Angel asks Spike if this guy has a name, and Spike says he calls himself Doyle. Insult has now been added to injury, and Angel is really really mad. Eve says the name doesn't ring any bells for her. Cordy says it does for them. Harmony walks in and wants to know if she can leave early too. Too? Oh yeah, everyone's left the office. About ten minutes ago, a memo went out telling everyone to go home, Code 7. Code 7? Eve continues to be unhelpful, so Cordy tells Angel to torture her, since now they appear to be on a deadline. Angel is a little taken aback, and says he can't just start torturing someone, just like that. Harmony rushes in, grabs Eve by the neck, and pins her to the desk, saying that she doesn't mind torturing her at all, if it's okay with everyone else. They all nod, and Harm starts pummeling Eve. Eve starts to talk, and Harmony hits her again. "Harmony, she's talking," says Angel, "You can stop now." "She is? Already?" Harm is disappointed. Eve then explains that Code 7 is a failsafe. Just in case Angel needs to be eliminated, the SPs put in place something that can be released to kill him. Whatever this thing is, it's controlled through the sublevels.
Wes says he'll try to get past the glyph spell, taking Gunn, Fred, and Lorne with him. Angel heads off to the basement, with Cordy and Spike in tow, despite his protestations. (He says he can't risk anyone he cares about down there. Spike volunteers to go, and Angel says "fine!" Cordy says she's coming no matter what, and grabs a sword off the wall.) Angel tells Harmony to stay with Eve, and eat her if she tries to leave.
Ingredients are being gathered for the glyph-removal spell (turns out they need demon blood, sorry Lorne!) as Angel, Spike, and Cordy enter the hallway of crisscrossing laser beams. Not having time to figure out a way past them, Angel starts to walk across, and twelve zombies come out of the walls to attack them. After a brief skrmish, Spike says he'll hold them off, so Angel and Cordy go ahead. They get to the console room, and theeeeeeeeeeere's Lindsey!
Angel is condescending and mocking at first, but then Lindsey throws him across the room. Seems those tattoos gave him more than just invisibility, though we don't really get an explanation of where his superpowers came from. Lindsey pulls out a knife, and starts towards Angel with it, taunting. Cordy tosses him the sword, and Angel taunts back. He also tells Cordy to get started disabling the failsafe. Lindsey laughs at Angel's sword and says "Don't you know? It's not the size that matters, it's how you use it," as his pocket knife morphs into a giant sword.
Hoyaytastic fight scene follows. (One of the title cards for a missing effects shot read "ANGEL GRABS LINDSEY'S SWORD" and yes I am twelve.) In the midst of it, Lindsey's shirt gets torn open, and then completely off, revealing nummy glyph-covered pecs and arms.
Cordy continues to fiddle with buttons in the background, but doesn't seem to be making much progress.
Meanwhile, Wes is conjuring like a mad conjuring thing. Fred is standing next to him, staring intently at him in a way that might be missed by someone who didn't know she was going to start macking on him in the puppet episode. Really, there's nothing sexier than a mad who's good at what he does, especially if he also looks like Alexis Denisof.
The Angel/Lindsey battle comes to its end when Lindsey finally gets ahold of Angel's sword, and drives it through his chest. This knocks Angel on his ass for a few minutes, just as Cordy finally gets the compartment with the jewel open, takes it out, and the room stops shaking. Lindsey is gloating over his victory, but, of course, Angel is able to pull the sword out of his chest and knock Lindsey off the platform, snarling, "It's not even made of wood!" At that moment, the anti-glyph spell starts working, and the tattoos float off Lindsey's body. Also, a portal is either forming and/or opening above him. (Seriously, the title card where the missing effect should have been said "A PORTAL BEGINS TO FORM (AND OPEN?)" It was funny. I laughed.) Whichever it ends up being, Lindsey is sucked up into the portal and is gone.
The gang gathers in the lobby to congratulate themselves on thwarting evil yet again. Somebody suggests going out for drinks, and they all think that's a fabulous idea. Angel goes to his office to get his coat. Cordy tells everyone else to go ahead, they'll catch up. "And hey, Wes," she adds, "You still work the best mojo in town."
And here we come to The Last Scene, which has been reported in detail already. Angel tells Cordy that he feels like he's back on track, like he can really do this, blah blah confidencecakes. Cordy says she always believed in him, she just needed him to believe it too. And then she starts to say goodbye. Her words are very carefully chosen -- if you already know, then it's clear she's talking about her time in this dimension being almost up, but if you don't, it works equally well for her to be talking about her path as a living human being not being Angel's anymore. Either way, it does come across that it's a very final goodbye, even if the real reason isn't explicitly stated. She leaves the room, stops, says "Oh, what the hell," and runs back for a big kiss that, as I said before, only feels a little bit forced, and mostly just feels sweet, and sad. The phone rings, Angel wants to let it ring, Cordy won't let him, so he picks it up. "Oh," she says, "and you're welcome." And then she's gone, and Angel is being told by the voice on the phone that Cordelia Chase is dead. She never did wake up.
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Post by PokerKitten on Feb 2, 2004 23:20:17 GMT
An article cum review of the Big 100, from www.scifi.com/sfw/current/screen.htmlBy Kathie Huddleston --------------------------------------------------------------
ow in its fifth season, Angel celebrates its 100th episode by bringing Cordelia (Carpenter) back to guest star in a very pivotal episode. "You're Welcome" opens with Angel and the gang hunting for one of their wayward evil clients. When they discover that the client in question has murdered five nuns and jumped dimensions, Angel decides to quit Wolfram & Hart. He's serious, and the others argue about the merits of leaving the evil law firm. Gunn (J. August Richards) feels they've done a lot of good, and he's not so sure the senior partners would even let them leave.
However, the discussion gets tabled when Angel discovers that Cordelia has mysteriously come out of her coma. Angel and Wesley (Alexis Denisof) rush to the hospital to discover that not only has Cordelia woken up, but she looks fabulous and remembers everything that led up to her coma when she was possessed by an evil entity. She's thrilled to see them, but shopping is top on her list, considering all she has to wear is a hospital gown.
Once that's taken care of and she discovers that her former partners in "helping the helpless" now run the very law firm they were fighting to destroy, she wastes no time in reminding Angel why he became a champion in the first place. She believes he's made a deal with the devil and he needs to get back on track.
In the meantime, Lindsay (Christian Kane) continues to manipulate Spike (Marsters) while plotting his revenge with a little help from Eve (Sarah Thompson). And when everyone in Wolfram & Hart deserts the building, leaving Angel and gang alone, Lindsay's revenge springs forth full throttle.
A sanguinary celebration
Not many series make it to 100 episodes, and even fewer do it with style, but Angel is one of those shows—and its 100th episode shows why. "You're Welcome" offers the return of former regular Charisma Carpenter in a very important episode that fans of the series will not want to miss.
Carpenter is a stitch, reminding us why she was so great, first on Buffy and later on Angel, until her character got stuck in a clunky romance with Angel and in a coma last season. Cordelia returns in fine form to give Angel a reality check, and she does so in a way that only Cordelia could. It's a great guest turn for the actress and her character, who deserved more than to be left in a coma for months, nearly forgotten as Angel's story went on. However, that said, this excellent episode almost makes up for the bad treatment of a wonderful character. The rest of the cast, led by Boreanaz and Marsters, play it just right, with Boreanaz's Angel a confused mess when it comes to trying to explain to Cordelia why he's running Wolfram & Hart.
David Fury's script is very funny and packs a terrific punch at the end. All the characters get a moment or two to shine, and the story, like the best episodes of Angel, weaves its tale around the events that have come before and has consequences for what will follow.
Recent episodes have touched on how others perceive the deal Angel made with the Wolfram & Hart devil, and this episode crystallizes the doubts the characters have about what they've done. "You're Welcome" is a high point for this very good season, and it will no doubt galvanize the show as it heads toward the end of its fifth and possibly last season.
Finally, Cordelia's back. Angel fans, don't miss this one. It's a biggie and, even though Joss Whedon didn't write it, "You're Welcome" is a standout episode. — Kathie
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Post by slaybelle74 on Feb 4, 2004 4:59:15 GMT
sounds like a good ep.....only a few hours till it actually airs here.i do have a problem with the whole lindsey calling himself doyle to spike....spike met doyle during season1 of angel ....so he would know that is not doyle!!!!!
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Post by Cyrus on Feb 4, 2004 20:44:08 GMT
Today's review from tvguide.comCharisma Carpenter returns as Cordelia Chase to help Angel celebrate his 100th. Episode, that is. When last seen, Cordy fell into a coma after becoming possessed by a mystical being that used her body as a conduit to give birth to itself and destroy the word. But although Angel (David Boreanaz) saved humankind from extinction, he could not find a way to wake Cordy up and she has since been languishing in an undisclosed medical facility. (Carpenter was pregnant during production last year and left the series to care for her new baby.)
Although the sharp, noirish drama seems revitalized by its shift from supernatural soap back to case-of-the-week serial, it has been a tough couple of months for Angel, who's trying to get used to life working for Wolfram & Hart rather than fighting it. He and the rest of the gang have had to make difficult judgment calls in the name of benefiting the greater good (or is it actually the greater evil in disguise?) and the moral ambiguity is weighing heavily on our hero. So much so that he's ready to quit.
Enter Cordy. Roused from her coma by a vision of Angel in trouble, she's convinced that the gang's new gig plays a part in the impending peril. And she's right. To the extent that disgraced former employee Lindsay (Christian Kane) is back to settle an old score, at least. Brazenly posing as fallen team member Doyle (the late Glenn Quinn, who's seen in an old Angel Investigations commercial), Lindsay has convinced Spike that Spike is the Shanshu Prophesy's chosen one, not Angel, a revelation that has further damaged Angel's shaky self-esteem and faltering conviction. If Spike's the one who's supposed to save the world and get his soul back, why's he still torturing himself?
Lucky for him, bosomy, er bosom, buddy Cordy knows the answer to that question and she's determined to get her disheartened champion back on track. The lovely Carpenter is, to quote her character, "a vision of hotliness," and although she struggles a bit to convincingly deliver diatribes and threats, the affection that Cordy and Angel share in their scenes together seems to spring from the obvious fondness the actors have for each other. Aside from most of last season (when she was evil), Cordy has always been the perfect flighty foil for Angel, with her boundless enthusiasm tempering his perpetual melancholy. Besides a certain vampire slayer, she's the only one Angel has allowed himself to love.
Unfortunately, faithful fans know that Angel can never achieve true happiness and their heartwarming reunion ultimately reveals a heartbreaking truth about his old friend. — Rebecca Peterson
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Post by PokerKitten on Feb 4, 2004 21:57:48 GMT
There are a lot of mag and online articles for this ep, with it being a landmark, but they are all more or less saying the same thing so no need for any more of 'em. I'm looking forward to the ep, as comparatively Spike-lite as it is. Always liked Cordy on AtS - she was good for the big lug. I may shed a little at the end.... Wildfeed's up - www.angelsacolyte.com/index.html
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Post by Cyrus on Feb 5, 2004 16:33:30 GMT
I was going to post last night, but the board was just running so slow... Let's see if I can remember... Lindsey shirtless... mmm......... ;D Angel called Lindsey a "tiny Texan", but I though in season 2 it was said he was from Oklahoma. And calling himself "Doyle": Spike met Doyle in season 1 (In the Dark). Guess he (or the writers) just forgot. Cordy looked awfully good for being in a coma for nearly a year. Way better than Faith did, who actually looked like it. Cordy got into Angel's room and found the original tape of their s1 Angel Investigations commercial with Doyle. That was kind of , especially considering both the character and the actor have died. Spike playing video games. ;D So cute! The A/C kiss... ummm I don't really remember much; I must have gotten distracted. Angel almost cried when he found out Cordy was dead. Trailer for next week... I've got a .mov file that I made by taping the trailer off my with my camera. ;D I also took a couple of pics of the screen and was going to post them, but the board was so slow. Spike with black hair slicked back! And in a uniform I think, but you know how trailers are and don't let you see thing for long enough to focus on it! They made it sound like he was the Nazi's greatest weapon. Again, trailers like to manipulate the ep around, so we'll see. I'll try to rewatch it tonight.
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Post by PokerKitten on Feb 7, 2004 14:18:09 GMT
Okay, not really sure what I thought of this ep. It was All.About.Angel of course and I do find that tedious; therre are plenty of other stories to be telling at the same time. But the Angel/Cordelia dynamics were terrific, as I always thought they were. And I do kinda feel sorry for the big lug, doomed to no happies. The final scene was lovely and very But I sincerely hope the writers allow the Fang Gang to mention Cordy in later episodes and not behave like she never even existed. I mean, apart from a token gesture right at the start of the season she was never alluded to, and that pissed me off. Of course, we are moving straight into an ep that will be dominated by flashback and so I have a nasty feeling she will already have been swept under the carpet I did start to sniffle when Cordy was watching the video of the "real" Doyle. I used to love Doyle It was a good touch. What the feck WAS that big contraption that Lindsey was playing with that was supposed to herald the end of Angel?! Someone in props obviously had a lot of fun building it, but it seemed very hokey to me. And I used to like Lindsey when he was Battling with Lilah and was mad for Darla, back in the day... that was fun. But his character has been a bit blah thus far this time around.... (the portal he was sucked into ain't necessarily the last we see of him, dear unspoiled ) I understand and was forearmed - heh! - about Spike being underused in this ep, but I do think we could have seen maybe some slight scarring to keep the continuity going. Vamps heal quick, but even their fighting bruises still show for a while. The arms were on display in his apartment so they missed a great opportunity to make it real. (Nice couch, btw). So, it was great to see Charisma back and giving the show some heart. She looked great, and we needed to say goodbye to Cordy. But otherwise it was pretty average, IMO....
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Post by Cyrus on Feb 7, 2004 16:51:25 GMT
I was glad to see Spike duster-less... finally! ;D That thing has been draped over and hiding his wonderful person all season!
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Post by PokerKitten on Feb 7, 2004 21:47:10 GMT
He has taken it off before Cy, just not often enough.
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