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Post by PokerKitten on Jan 7, 2004 17:11:58 GMT
www.spoilerfix.com/angel.phpDon't know where this info originates, as the character sides are not doing the rounds yet... anyway, it is something to start the thread off ;D
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Post by PokerKitten on Jan 8, 2004 21:42:57 GMT
ATS: Episode 15 Info (Updated)
<snip> As for episode 15, just more confirmation that Joss will be both writing and directing the episode. It's possible that more info may break next week, but it's going to be hard to tell (I have a feeling Joss is going to work hard on blocking info on this episode) Which may tie in with some info posted by SpoilerFix.com yesterday. They are reporting that one of the characters in the episode will be named Scott. He will be young, 17-19 years old, and appears in a club-scene with a bouncer and other young adults. This has led to 'speculation' (and I stress speculation), that Scott could be Connor. To be honest, I have absolutely no information that would indicate that Connor would be returning in this episode. I don't doubt the report itself that a character that fits this description will be in the episode, but it's still to early to know anything for certain.
Update: I just want to clarify a few points as there seems to be a bit of confusion.
First, is it not my speculation that the Scott character is a sly way for Joss to sneak Connor into the script unnoticed. (like they did with the character Sean - who was a cover for Lindsey). I have seen this discussed on various boards, where people are speculating that this could be a possibility. More on this in a bit...
As of right now, it's my perception that Ben Edlund is doing 'Smile Time', based on comments made at the Los Angeles Comic Convention about writing musical numbers for his episode (which there will be in 'Smile Time'). At the same panel, Joss said he would be writing and directing the episode after that, which should be Episode 15. Which seems to be confirmed by one of my sources. Still, nothing is 100% at this time. But it does make sense that Joss would likely do the final episode of February Sweeps (rather than episode 16 or 17).
As mentioned earlier, this episode will deal with a 'setback for Fred'. What that entails has yet to be revealed, but it does make it seem a bit more unlikely that if it is a Fred-centric episode, that Connor would be returning in this one. Joss also commented at the above panel, about the similarities between River (Firefly) and Fred, and the fact that he still has more to say on the subject. It's my speculation that there is a strong chance that most of 15 may in fact end up being derived from a concept or script that was originally planned for 'Firefly'. No facts to base this on, but it would make sense. But if it is true, again, it would make it seem doubtful that this episode will involve Connor.
So just some things to keep in mind, it should be interesting to see what Joss has planned, and hopefully we should know more in a week or so.
Posted by Tensai at January 7, 2004 06:33 PM
www.spoilerslayer.com/archives/002645.php
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Post by PokerKitten on Jan 21, 2004 12:57:23 GMT
O-kay.... with the cast list for ep 15 it appears we in the spoiler community may have been led a bit of a dance.... ADDITIONAL CAST Eve SARAH THOMPSON Roger GARY GRUBBS Trish JENNIFER GRIFFIN Knox JONATHAN WOODWARD Delivery Man JOHN DUFF Lawyer JEREMY GLAZER Drogyn ALEC NEWMAN PRODUCTION CREDITS Written and Directed by JOSS WHEDON If Drogyn is in this ep (and btw, he is a bit of a phwoar, not some old geezer), then does this mean he appears in it briefly, only to come into his own in ep 16 for which we thought we had his character sides.... Or, were those sides actually for ep 15 all along?! And Roger and Trish are Fred's parents, and Joss said at a con that his ep would have Fred facing a setback... oh, my head hurts.....
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Post by PokerKitten on Jan 21, 2004 13:58:56 GMT
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Post by PokerKitten on Jan 27, 2004 11:16:20 GMT
Okay, so workingon the premise that we wuz duped with the sides for episode "16" and they are really for 15, I have moved my summary over:
A pretty Spikey scene, Angel and Spike bickering, but it doesn't seem too nasty I think I can get away with one line - S to A: Weren't for me you'd be bugfood so quit whining.
Heh!
Fred commandeers said bug to examine at her leisure.
Back in the lab, a ginormous sarcophagus is delivered by a bulky workman. There is an invoice with Fred's name on it, and Knox takes delivery, but without even having to sign for it....
Dun dun duuuuunnnnn!
The next side is for Drogyn and is kinda interesting. The directions say we are in the English countryside at night and that there is another FLASH and Drogyn appears. Angel seems to know him and says he is the keeper of the Well. Drogyn doesn't seem to relish the job but he goes where they send him,apparently. Spike starts to ask him a question but Drogyn cuts him off threateningly. Killing is mentioned Angel says he can and would do it. Illyria is mentioned as the reason for their being there And Drogyn says they shouldn't have come, threatens some more when Spike starts to question him again, and flounces off to another FLASH.
Angel says the reason he gets twitchy about questions is he can't lie.
Then we are inside, in a small corridor, with Drogyn, Angel and Spike. D and A confirm that they have met before. Drogyn burbles about some weird shit! Involving the Old Ones being pure demons, and Illyria again (being feared AND beloved), and how they were interned. But whatever/whoever it is, it has gone *poof* Spike snarks about him being a crap jailor! Drogyn says it wasn't stolen, but disappeared. And anyway, he has a lot on his plate, or words to that effect!
Yikes, and we know where it has *poofed* to!! It all sounds quite intriguing!
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Post by PokerKitten on Jan 28, 2004 12:48:31 GMT
Holy guacamole batman! Episode 15
After being breathed on by an ancient sarcophagus, Fred contracts a mysterious illness and lies near death while Angel and his friends try to figure out what’s wrong with her.
In a flashback to eight years ago, Fred assures her parents as she moves out of her childhood home that she’ll be perfectly safe on her own in Los Angeles. Then, in the present, Fred and Wesley use flamethrowers to vanquish a nest of nasty-creature eggs, and then kiss in triumph. Meanwhile, back at Wolfram and Hart, Knox takes a middle-of-the-night delivery of an ancient sarcophagus addressed to Fred. The next day, while Angel and Spike argue over whether a caveman or an astronaut would win a fight if they were matched in battle, Fred and Knox examine the sarcophagus, but can’t get it to open. Then Fred leans in closer, and a small opening appears and blows a puff of stale air in her face. It doesn’t seem to affect her, but Knox advises her to get checked out by the company’s medical department just in case. Back in Angel’s office, he finally tires of he and Spike’s constant battling, and urges Spike, who is no longer physically or spectrally bound to the firm, to leave. Spike says he has nowhere to go, but then decides to go find Buffy in Europe, and Angel wishes him well. About the same time, Fred runs into Wesley and tells him about the mummy dust she breathed, but she assures him the doctors found nothing wrong with her. Wes invites her out to dinner, but then, as Fred starts to accept, she suddenly coughs blood all over Wesley’s face.
Fred wakes up later in a hospital room with Angel, Wes, Gunn, Spike, Lorne, and Knox gathered around her bed. They promise to do all they can to figure out what’s wrong with her, and Angel says that all the doctors can tell is that some sort of parasite is making its way through Fred’s system; and if it’s not stopped, it will soon liquefy her organs. To find out what’s going on, Wes returns to his office and pores over magical texts. Gunn goes to the White Room to speak with the conduit to the Powers That Be (which now appears as his own double), but the conduit says that if Gunn wants to help Fred, he’ll have to do it himself. Meanwhile Angel, Spike, and Lorne go to Lindsey’s apartment, where they find Eve in Lindsey’s bed. Angel accuses Eve and Lindsey of being involved in what’s happened to Fred, but Eve insists she had nothing to do with it and doesn’t even know where Lindsey is. Angel doesn’t believe her, but Lorne confirms her aura is clear. He threatens to tell the Senior Partners where Eve is hiding, however, so she says the sarcophagus may belong to one of the “Old Ones” — the original demons that inhabited the world before humans — and that Wesley should search ancient texts for references to the “Deeper Well.” Later, back at Wolfram and Hart, Wes learns the Deeper Well is the burial ground for the Old Ones, and figures out that one of them, Illyria, may be using Fred as a host to re-enter this world. Angel asks where the Deeper Well is, and when he learns it’s in England, he and Spike head for the company jet. As they do, Fred, in her hospital bed, suddenly opens her eyes.
Wes finds Fred in her lab trying to research her own disease. Wesley talks her into stopping, and she asks him to take her home. Meanwhile, as Angel and Spike fly to England, Knox suggests to Gunn that they may be able to slow the progress of Fred’s disease by freezing her until they find a cure. A bit later, at Fred’s apartment, Wes tucks Fred into bed and reads to her from her favorite book, Sara Crewe. Finally Angel and Spike arrive at a tree in a field in the Cotswolds that Angel says is the portal to the Deeper Well. At first they see nothing unusual, but then two demon warriors charge them, and as they fight them off, more appear. Back at Wolfram and Hart, Knox tries freezing a sample of Fred’s blood, but unfortunately the cold does nothing to slow the parasite activity. Knox apologizes to Gunn, saying that he cares about Fred so much, he practically worships “it”… which immediately arouses Gunn’s suspicions. Back in England, after Angel fights off the warriors, a man named Drogyn appears and Angel recognizes him as the keeper of the Well. Drogyn knows Angel and Spike have come about Illyria, and invites them inside. Back at Wolfram and Hart Gunn knocks Knox around, and Knox admits that he chose Fred to be Illyria’s host because he loves her so much. Knox says there’s no way to save Fred, however; and when Gunn says Angel will, Knox says that Angel not only can’t, but when he finds out what’s really going on, he will actually choose to let Fred die.
As Drogyn leads Angel and Spike into the Well, he explains that Illyria disappeared from his resting place about a month ago, in what appears to be part of a predestined escape plan. Spike accuses Drogyn of being remiss at watching his charges, but then they arrive in a tunnel, full of sarcophagi, which stretches all the way down into and through the earth, and Drogyn says Illyria was a very powerful demon who still has acolytes on earth. Meanwhile Knox, one of the acolytes, reveals to Gunn that he (Gunn) actually helped get the sarcophagus into this country (it’s what was on the ship Gunn expedited through customs for Dr. Sparrow in return for getting his mental powers restored). Meanwhile, at Fred’s apartment, her pain worsens, and as she tries to fight it, Wes promises never to leave her. Back in the Well, Spike demands that Drogyn tell them how to get the demon out of Fred’s body, and Drogyn says that a champion can do it; but if he does, Illyria will then enter and infect millions of others to keep from getting trapped by its pursuers. At first Angel declares that he will save Fred no matter what, but as Drogyn goes off to prepare the spell, Angel finally realizes he just can’t trade one life for so many others. Back at Fred’s apartment she gets sicker and sicker until, finally, she dies. Then a blue frost covers Fred’s eyes and her body bucks and rises, now with a mottled blue face and no pupils. As Wes watches in horror, Illyria looks at its new body and says, “This will do.”
From Mythical Boards
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Post by PokerKitten on Jan 28, 2004 13:35:14 GMT
Okay, deva vu for S4.... but it is still goddamn dramatic!! And coming hard on the heels of Cordy's death.... I always knew these ME bastards were mysoginists at heart and were just pretending to feel the grrl power lurve! Just kidding!
Kinda sick of hearing Spike say he is going off to Europe to find Buffy and then..... not! By now it could just be something he says to wind up Angel, but it is getting old fast!
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Post by PokerKitten on Jan 28, 2004 16:17:24 GMT
tensai has provided an abbreviated summary again: - The episode opens on a flashback, as Fred leaves home for college. - Wes and Fred appear to be very much the couple now. - The sarcophagus (mentioned in earlier spoilers), is delivered to the lab. - While Fred is examining it, she inhales some vapors that come out of it. - Angel and Spike are at each other's throats again, Spike is ready to go to Europe. - Fred starts to get gravely , and is put into intensive care. - Everyone tries to find a way to help Fred, but the resources at Wolfram and Hart are no help. - They go to see Eve, who is hiding at Lindsey's (he's still gone). - Eve wasn't behind this, but she reveals that it may be connected to the "Old Ones". - Wes discovers that Illyria (and "Old One") will use Fred as a host. - Unfortunately, in order for Illyria to possess her, Fred has to die. - Angel and Spike, after learning where Illyria used to be kept, fly to England. - Knox slips up and reveals he's the one who chose Fred to be the host. - It turns out that Gunn is also partially to blame, as an unwitting accomplice. - Spike and Angel meet with Drogyn, the keeper of 'The Well' where the "Old Ones" are kept. - In order to save Fred, a 'champion' must choose her life over millions. - Angel is about to save her, then decides that the price is too high. - Fred dies, and Illyria takes over her body. www.spoilerslayer.com/archives/002691.phpAnd what I didn't say before was... that leaves us with another champion, who has reason to "owe" Fred....
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Post by Cyrus on Jan 28, 2004 20:52:14 GMT
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Post by PokerKitten on Jan 28, 2004 21:02:18 GMT
They'll get her back, surely.... And with any luck she will have forgotten her sudden interest in romance with Wes, and he will be distraught. He can go on a rampage if he wants. He's been a colossal bore this season so far, so it would make sense, lol.
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Post by PokerKitten on Feb 2, 2004 23:45:11 GMT
"ANGEL" - (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET) "A Hole in the World" WRITTEN AND DIRECTED BY JOSS WHEDON -- When Fred (Amy Acker) opens up an ancient sarcophagus that was anonymously sent to her, she is infected by a mysterious parasitic demon called Illyria. Angel (David Boreanaz) and Spike (James Marsters) learn that Illyria is an ancient demon who existed before recorded time, and they must race to return her to an ancient demon burial ground before she kills Fred and thousands of other innocent victims. www.tvbarn.com/ticker/archives/018661.html#018661
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Post by PokerKitten on Feb 12, 2004 1:22:21 GMT
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Post by Cyrus on Feb 19, 2004 3:48:59 GMT
One of those trailers that doesn't let you focus on anything... pics flashing around too much... Wes carrying Fred... Wes/Fred moments that the shippers will probably ;D over. Spike and Angel holding hands(?) At least that's what it looked like... uh them holding hands, not them (darn) I ran out of tape in my VCR and almost didn't get all the trailer... 5-15 Trailervid by Cyrus... not to be reposted elsewhere
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Post by PokerKitten on Feb 19, 2004 13:19:30 GMT
Just seen the trailer... looks fantastic. Tense, action-packed, tragic... but above all else you see, how can you remember anything other than Spike and Angel holding hands... yes Cy, they were def holding hands! Albeit at a distance, but Spanglers rejoice! Crash and burn Fres shippers, she's a badass god now... hmmm, now where I have heard of the leading lady being taken over by another entity midway through a season.... Here's the proof of the physicality in the woods ;D I taught myself to save stills from QuickTime, which is what my version of the promo plays on. (Don't know why I had trouble figurig it out before, doh!). But I couldn't get the one shot I wanted of them unclasping no matter how hard I tried! Anyway...
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Post by PokerKitten on Feb 19, 2004 14:42:33 GMT
Spike upset about Fred The boys mean business
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Post by Cyrus on Feb 19, 2004 14:59:20 GMT
Cool! You made screen caps? How'd you do that? ;D
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Post by PokerKitten on Feb 19, 2004 15:32:43 GMT
I kept pausing the promo and saving the still, which I then opened in paint, and cropped out the edges and saved again. Hurrah! I made smaller ones of better quality but thought the bigger ones were okayish..
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Post by Cyrus on Feb 19, 2004 15:50:33 GMT
Taking a screenshot of the whole monitor then cropping? Whenever I've tried that, I've ended up with a black sqare where the vid is supposed to be... although I've not tried it with the vid's I"ve made... did you use my trailer or find another one? If it was mine, I'll try it on mine when I get home... ;D
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Post by PokerKitten on Feb 19, 2004 16:00:48 GMT
No, it was one I'd downloaded from somewhere else It was on QuickTime and I didn't change it. So with that you pause at the shot you want, go to edit and save or just ctrl C and hey presto, just the actual frame is saved. Thought I was going to have to screen save but then I figured it out. I just edited out the teeny black border that was round the vid. ;D
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Post by Cyrus on Feb 21, 2004 5:31:40 GMT
Ad for the ep They sure are making a big deal out of this ep being written and directed by Joss... the trailer had it, and so does this ad...
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